Coronavirus

[nomadking]

Originally Posted by joglynne

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Not always. My elderly friend was admitted to hospital becasue her breathing had become very laboured, she is 87 and has COPD. They did a routine test for Covid-19 at her residential care home the week before and again on admission to hospital. Negative. They tested her again a week later and she is now positive.

The symptoms of Covid-19 aren't always as clear cut as we first thought and people are being admitted to hospital who have age related symptoms or preexisting condtion problems and not always because they have already had a positive test result. Luckily my friend is improving.

These figures are for covid admissions ONLY.
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The second wave is placing an ever greater toll on UK hospitals. There are more than 1,000 Covid admissions a day - 10 times the rate at the end of summer.

[1andrew1]

Second lockdown now likely as minister George Eustice says current approach right 'for now'

A new Covid-19 lockdown covering much of Britain looked increasingly likely today after a Cabinet minister called the current approach right “for now”.

As senior scientists warned of hospitals being overwhelmed with 25,000 coronavirus patients by the end of November, expectations were growing that Boris Johnson will reluctantly have to order a temporary major shutdown before the end of the year.

Environment Secretary George Eustice kept the door open to such a move when asked about reports that the Government was being driven towards a “circuit breaker”.

“We think we have got the right approach for now,” the minister told Sky News.

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/s...-a4573267.html

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Airport testing helps Charles de Gaulle overtake Heathrow for the first time!

Paris's Charles de Gaulle has overtaken Heathrow as Europe's busiest airport, with the London hub reporting falling passenger numbers and rising losses.

"Already in France and Germany, even Canada and Ireland have moved to testing and this is the way to make sure we can protect jobs in the UK as well as protecting people from coronavirus," Mr Holland Kaye [of Heathrow Airport] told the BBC.

"The government really need to get on and make this happen before the beginning of December if we are going to save people's jobs."

https://news.sky.com/story/pariss-ch...rport-12116818

BREAKING: Germany will enter a four-week lockdown from 2 November, Chancellor Angela Merkel has announced.

The details include:

• Bars and pubs to shut
• Restaurants to shut except for takeaway
• Gyms, cinemas and theatres to close
• Private gatherings banned for more than 10 people and more than two households
• Hotels to close to tourists and stay open only for essential reasons
• Non-essential travel discouraged
• Shops to stay open but with fewer than one person per 10 square metres
• Schools, kindergartens and day care centres to stay open
• Ms Merkel said she "wants to make sure" nursing homes can still receive visitors during the lockdown, which will be reviewed in two weeks.

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by denphone

Given that Professor Chris Whitty stated that we were on course for 200 deaths a day by mid November that is a pretty grim figure.

It’s a spike, probably due to delays in reporting.

Across all metrics, admissions, ICU beds & deaths, we’re currently around 25% of the volume of the peak of the initial wave.

Looking at the numbers if this current increase continued to rise at it’s present rate we’d hit the same numbers of the initial Wave around June next year.

[jfman]

Originally Posted by Pierre

It’s a spike, probably due to delays in reporting.

Across all metrics, admissions, ICU beds & deaths, we’re currently around 25% of the volume of the peak of the initial wave.

Looking at the numbers if this current increase continued to rise at it’s present rate we’d hit the same numbers of the initial Wave around June next year.

I doubt this post will age well. I'm only really commenting to make it easier to find at a later date.

BREAKING: Macron announces France will follow Germany into 2nd national lockdown from Friday.

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Mick

BREAKING: Macron announces France will follow Germany into 2nd national lockdown from Friday.

The riots should be worth watching.

Meanwhile, they have changed their minds again about Notts
Now all of Nottinghamshire will enter T3, from Friday (previously Thursday).

Oh, and add this to the latest of bizarre rules ;

Alcohol cannot be sold after 21:00 GMT in shops, but can be served until 22:00 if bought "in hospitality venues where accompanying a substantial meal"

I'm sure they no longer have any clue what they are doing, how is that rule going to help in any way.

If you're having a glass of wine with a meal, you're less likely to get leathered and then go out and flout the lockdown rules than if you just go down the boozer for eight pints.

That's the rationale, anyway. I don't know what the evidence base for it is.

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Paul

Meanwhile, they have changed their minds again about Notts
Now all of Nottinghamshire will enter T3, from Friday (previously Thursday).

Oh, and add this to the latest of bizarre rules ;

I'm sure they no longer have any clue what they are doing, how is that rule going to help in any way.

It just means people will have to get the party booze in before they go to the pub,people have had enough of lockdowns and orders.

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by jfman

I doubt this post will age well. I'm only really commenting to make it easier to find at a later date.

I’m only observing the numbers as they are currently and extrapolating from the slope of the chart.

As although recorded infections has gone off the chart, the other metrics have generally stayed on a gradual slope.

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/deaths

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/healthcare

[Mad Max]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

It just means people will have to get the party booze in before they go to the pub,people have had enough of lockdowns and orders.

So very true, get the children told.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

people have had enough of lockdowns and orders.

Coronavirus likes this.

Hmmm, so 'Deaths with COVID-19 on the death certificate' are 109 per day, as opposed to the 'Deaths within 28 days of positive test' which is 310 per day. So why are we still using this meaninless second figure (other than to inflate the rate, and make things look worse).

Even using those inflated figures, the daily graph shows we are nowhere near the levels back in April.

I think we'll follow mainland Europe into lockdown tbh.