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					Originally Posted by jfman  Hide behind best judgement, difficult decisions to be made quickly, etc. Limitations of the scope of the study. Wave a Union Flag and slag off Brussels. Go to the House of Lords, pass go and collect £163 a day.
 Plenty of opportunities as long as you stay on the right side of the fence where you look borderline incompetent at worst. Just look at Jenny Harries.
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 The whole vaccine thing, as you know, has been rushed in order to minimise long term national damage.  You've said as much in the first sentence of the first paragraph.  The rest of the first paragraph is gratuitous rubbish.
 
 
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			I feel like this thread has ceased to be a discussion about the world's present predicament and has become nothing more than point scoring.
		 
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					Originally Posted by Maggy  I feel like this thread has ceased to be a discussion about the world's present predicament and has become nothing more than point scoring. |  It's taken you this long?       
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		|  14-04-2021, 11:17 | #4774 |  
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			The world's present predicament is Iran/Israel.  There's no vaccine for that.
 Anyway, to Cornavirus.   Boris has warned that what's going on in Europe might well happen here and the South London SA variety episode shows just how fragile things are.  I think that the Guvmin's roadmap is very sensible and allows an assessment to be made during each advancement stage, based on the numbers.
 
 
 
 
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			^^^^.THIS.
 
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		|  14-04-2021, 12:06 | #4776 |  
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					Originally Posted by Carth  It's taken you this long?      |  No! I'm just trying to get up the energy to put my moderator hat on.
		 
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		|  15-04-2021, 19:37 | #4778 |  
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			He’s anti-lockdown* and called  for "herd immunity" last year, didn’t he?https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/...herd-immunity/ 
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		|  15-04-2021, 20:01 | #4779 |  
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			Found this preprint paper today on who funded the chimpanzee adenovirus vaccine technology and COVID vaccine development at Oxford University - https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1...103v1.full.pdf 
Lots of money invested there but also shows the lack of transparency in academic funding.
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		|  15-04-2021, 20:55 | #4780 |  
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					Originally Posted by Hugh   |  Does this make the article less interesting? I made no statement of agreement nor denial of the content.
 
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		|  15-04-2021, 21:03 | #4781 |  
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					Originally Posted by pip08456  Does this make the article less interesting? I made no statement of agreement nor denial of the content.
 You have a habit of apparently knowing what I am thinking. Good luck with that!
 |  Yes it makes it less interesting because the author has been consistently wrong throughout the pandemic.
 
Some creative data analysis, shifting some assumptions and removing other key parts of decision making (NHS capacity) make for a thought experiment in fiction but no genuinely interesting analysis.
 
As I’ve said before throw some coin in the direction of academics and they’ll produce anything you like. Answers on demand. Like legal advice they’ll stretch the bounds of reality as long as it stretches their trouser pocket.
 
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					Originally Posted by jfman  Yes it makes it less interesting because the author has been consistently wrong throughout the pandemic.
 Some creative data analysis, shifting some assumptions and removing other key parts of decision making (NHS capacity) make for a thought experiment in fiction but no genuinely interesting analysis.
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					Originally Posted by pip08456  Are you saying the Imperial modelling (et al) has been consistantly correct? |  No, or else I’d have used those words instead of the ones I opted to.
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					Originally Posted by pip08456  Does this make the article less interesting? I made no statement of agreement nor denial of the content.
 You have a habit of apparently knowing what I am thinking. Good luck with that!
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