Coronavirus

[downquark1]

Originally Posted by Hugh

Private Eye have printed a spoof article, written as if Christopher Hitchens (an avid anti-lockdowner and downplayer of the impact of COVID) was writing articles in 1940...

Peter not Christopher. Christopher is dead.

[Hom3r]

I had to pop into Sainsbury's for bread & milk, the store as a sigh asked for 1 person shoppers, but obviously this didn't apply to the groups of 2+ that roamed the store, then there where the usual maskless and those that had masks under their noses.


Hopefully the government is going to get shops to police the covidiots and stop them entering the stores.

Originally Posted by downquark1

Peter not Christopher. Christopher is dead.

Thank you.

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by Hom3r

Hopefully the government is going to get shops to police the covidiots and stop them entering the stores.

I'm almost certain that any shop already has the power to decide who they let enter and always have.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Hom3r

I had to pop into Sainsbury's for bread & milk, the store as a sigh asked for 1 person shoppers, but obviously this didn't apply to the groups of 2+ that roamed the store, then there where the usual maskless and those that had masks under their noses.


Hopefully the government is going to get shops to police the covidiots and stop them entering the stores.

Maybe shop at Morrisons if there's one in your area?

Morrisons will refuse to serve customers without Covid masks

Morrisons has said it will refuse to serve people who do not wear face masks and even call in police as part of tougher policies to stem increasing coronavirus infections.

The supermarket broke ranks with rivals by saying it would strengthen its policy on masks in particular, after the government reportedly raised concerns that falling compliance with lockdown restrictions might be contributing to the rapid rise in Covid-19.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknew...ks/ar-BB1cEyLr

[RichardCoulter]

Originally Posted by Pierre

I'm almost certain that any shop already has the power to decide who they let enter and always have.

They do* as they are private property.

* Unless the denial of entry is related to a person being in one of the Protected Groups. Some stores have now started a no ifs, no buts, no mask=no entry policy. However, if someone is exempt and refused admission, this could well be a breach of the Equality Act and stores are laying themselves open to legal action.

It doesn't help that the Government haven't created a way for such people to easily provide proof that they are exempt (nor are they required to do so).

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

They do* as they are private property.

* Unless the denial of entry is related to a person being in one of the Protected Groups. Some stores have now started a no ifs, no buts, no mask=no entry policy. However, if someone is exempt and refused admission, this could well be a breach of the Equality Act and stores are laying themselves open to legal action.

It doesn't help that the Government haven't created a way for such people to easily provide proof that they are exempt (nor are they required to do so).

The store has some leeway here because mask-wearing is now written into law. A prosecution would be difficult. Much would depend on how the initial challenge was presented and what the store did with the response. I suspect that Morrisons is not simply going to let someone in if they claim to have asthma or a hidden disability because the kind of people who think they're above the law are also not above lying through their teeth to get their way. They might on the other hand offer to set up a home delivery, click and collect or other such help which would make a charge of discrimination even harder to make stick. I suspect most if not all people with a genuine reason not to wear a mask wold be happy for the assistance, unless of course they were on a militant quest to catch the store out and bring a malicious prosecution.

My personal experience of this (and I know personal perception of disability isn't everything) is that you can usually spot who are the Karens and the angry 50-something Freemen-on-the-land, and who those with genuine issues are. A lot of people voluntarily availed themselves of sunflower lanyards early in the first lockdown.

NEW: Police withdraw fines for coffee ladies in derbyshire last week... “Two fixed penalty notices that were handed to two women who had travelled to Foremark Reservoir on Thursday have been withdrawn and we have notified the women directly, apologising for any concern caused."

[heero_yuy]

Originally Posted by Mick

NEW: Police withdraw fines for coffee ladies in derbyshire last week... “Two fixed penalty notices that were handed to two women who had travelled to Foremark Reservoir on Thursday have been withdrawn and we have notified the women directly, apologising for any concern caused."

Absolutely right. This was a total overreaction to an utterly low risk situation.

[nomadking]

Originally Posted by heero_yuy

Absolutely right. This was a total overreaction to an utterly low risk situation.

The risk level is completely irrelevant. Whose to say they hadn't also at some time carried out riskier behaviour? If more people acted in that way, then more people would be in those locations, and it would no longer be "low risk".
Is the level of risk was to be a factor, then theoretically, I could go wherever I liked for a few days, as currently there is zero possibility of me having the virus. How would that go for everybody else?

[Taf]

Ireland moves to number one.

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Mick

NEW: Police withdraw fines for coffee ladies in derbyshire last week... “Two fixed penalty notices that were handed to two women who had travelled to Foremark Reservoir on Thursday have been withdrawn and we have notified the women directly, apologising for any concern caused."

This could be why
Coronavirus: Boris Johnson criticised over bike ride seven miles from home

A Downing Street spokesman would not confirm if Mr Johnson had been driven to the park, but said he had complied with Covid-19 guidelines.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-55620138

[nomadking]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

This could be why
Coronavirus: Boris Johnson criticised over bike ride seven miles from home

A Downing Street spokesman would not confirm if Mr Johnson had been driven to the park, but said he had complied with Covid-19 guidelines.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-55620138

One key difference is that he was actually exercising, THEY WEREN'T. Another is as he has had the virus, he should no longer be able to reach the stage of being infectious to others.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by nomadking

One key difference is that he was actually exercising, THEY WEREN'T. Another is as he has had the virus, he should no longer be able to reach the stage of being infectious to others.

Walking is exercise, isn't it?

Jessica Allen and Eliza Moore were walking at Foremark Reservoir, Derbyshire, when they were stopped by officers and fined £200 each.

The reason they were fined was the police felt they shouldn't have driven to the exercise site.

At the time Derbyshire Police insisted driving to exercise was "not in the spirit" of the most recent lockdown.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-englan...shire-55625062

Originally Posted by Taf

Ireland moves to number one.

Gib’s number 1

https://www.statista.com/statistics/...pe-by-country/