Coronavirus

[SnoopZ]

Originally Posted by denphone

There could be quite a lot of people contacting their families tonight l suspect to cancel their planned visits.

Yes, i'm meant to be going to Wales near Chester from 23rd-27th and if the Welsh rules mirror England's new rules i can only do that on 25th or possibly not at all, which means i will be all alone over Christmas.

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by Mick

Sorry bud but it has changed, you can only go to your sisters on Christmas day, if you stick to your plans, then you would be breaking the law. There is no longer a 5 day relaxation for any Tier.

Well the law, as they say, is an ass. I won’t be changing any plans.

[RichardCoulter]

Originally Posted by alanbjames

Just to let u all know at the age of 69 ive just had covid.

I was on a ventilator for almost a week but all in all i was in Hospital for about 5 weeks and this almost killed me.

Thank God you are ok, as others have said I think that plenty of rest is wise.

This new mutation is as creepy as it is scary. It's almost as if covid is a living creature with intelligence and that it's realised that we are trying to stall it's progress with measures like social distancing, masks etc, so it's mutated to make it more likely to infect new hosts by 70%.

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Originally Posted by Pierre

Well the law, as they say, is an ass. I won’t be changing any plans.

Lots of people on social media are mirroring what you say.

I wonder if they intend/are able to enforce these new rules and if so, how strictly? Will there be road blocks or police cars patrolling to see if one particular property has an unusually high number of cars parked outside?

[pip08456]

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

Thank God you are ok, as others have said I think that plenty of rest is wise.

This new mutation is as creepy as it is scary. It's almost as if covid is a living creature with intelligence and that it's realised that we are trying to stall it's progress with measures like social distancing, masks etc, so it's mutated to make it more likely to infect new hosts.

Not creepy at all, every virus, especially corona type mutate over time. It is nothing new.

Viruses mutate, it is a scientific fact, the common cold is a form of virus, the body becomes immune to it, but it is continuously mutating which is why there is no known cure for it, I suspect Covid-19 may be in this realm of non-curability.

[RichardCoulter]

Originally Posted by pip08456

Not creepy at all, every virus, especially corona type mutate over time. It is nothing new.

Yes, that is true, but it's as if it's aware that we are trying to stop it doing what it wants to do, so has taken steps to circumvent the steps that we've taken. It's as if it's trying to preserve itself, which I find creepy because they don't possess intelligence.

[heero_yuy]

Originally Posted by pip08456

Not creepy at all, every virus, especially corona type mutate over time. It is nothing new.

Applying strong selective pressure: Masks, spacing etc will drive this process and only the more infectious versions will survive.

[RichardCoulter]

Originally Posted by Mick

Viruses mutate, it is a scientific fact, the common cold is a form of virus, the body becomes immune to it, but it is continuously mutating which is why there is no known cure for it, I suspect Covid-19 may be in this realm of non-curability.

Do you know if they always mutate to their advantage? I wonder if any mutate to their detriment.

Metro: Londoners face being arrested if they try and leave city after midnight

https://metro.co.uk/2020/12/19/londo...metrouktwitter

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

Do you know if they always mutate to their advantage? I wonder if any mutate to their detriment.

Well, they wouldn't spread well then.

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

Yes, that is true, but it's as if it's aware that we are trying to stop it doing what it wants to do, so has taken steps to circumvent the steps that we've taken. It's as if it's trying to preserve itself, which I find creepy because they don't possess intelligence.

Just the same as the Cold or Flu, why do you think you need a flu jab “every” year?

You’ll just end up probably having a combined annual flu/Covid jab.

[denphone]

The whole of Wales is to be placed under lockdown from midnight with festive plans cancelled for all but Christmas Day.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-55376873

First Minister Mark Drakeford made the announcement after urgent talks with ministers over a new variant of coronavirus.

Originally Posted by Mick

Viruses mutate, it is a scientific fact, the common cold is a form of virus, the body becomes immune to it, but it is continuously mutating which is why there is no known cure for it, I suspect Covid-19 may be in this realm of non-curability.

Well we can hope that our bodies 'remember' having a similar virus so it becomes less lethal over time.

At the moment this mutation is not expected to be immune to the vaccine.

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This is pathetic from the Government though. They knew this same data a few days ago. They keep coming to the same decision that scientists, doctors, SAGE and the other political parties come to just days later.

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by Mick

Metro: Londoners face being arrested if they try and leave city after midnight

https://metro.co.uk/2020/12/19/londo...metrouktwitter

Welcome back to 1940’s continental Europe. Be prepared to be stopped by shady looking guys in leather trench coats and wire rimmed glasses asking for your “papers”

Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees

This !!!!!!! But if I remember rightly from some on here they couldn’t because of transport links

No. We said they couldn't break up the boroughs because of the transport links. London can be in whatever tier it needs to be but ALL of London has to be in it.

This is sensible for London though, if there has to be a tier 4 then London obviously has to be in it.