Coronavirus (OLD)

Originally Posted by Kushan

You seem hell bent on punishing and blaming young people and young people only.

... and your obsession is getting quite tiresome, move on.

[Kushan]

Sorry Paul, but maybe you should ask those ragging and blaming on young people to knock it off instead.

Originally Posted by Mad Max

I'm sure there was a bit of tongue in cheek there......l

I'm sure from Carth it was, but unfortunately these "back in my day" arguments are made without a hint of irony by plenty of people. The whole "avocado toast and iphones" has become a meme at this point.

[Carth]

Some was tongue in cheek, some not.

I do actually feel sorry for the 'lifestyle' of todays youngsters. Almost every aspect of their life is laid bare and open to scrutiny through that marvelous technology called the internet. I doubt there are any who don't have a presence on the major social websites, and it's all good fun . . until it suddenly isn't, and you can't rub out that little error of judgement that may follow you for years.

Progress is wonderful, without it we'd still be using the horse & cart, wood fires & candles, but it comes at a price. Machinery, computers & automation that improves production but reduces jobs. Medical advances that ensure longer life and reduced infant death rates, which means growing populations needing more housing.

No jobs, no housing, but a steady rise in mental health issues . . . I meant it when I said I miss the old days and the 'freedom' we had.

[Kushan]

You're right carth, those are very real problems faced by today's generation. I know the topic will go down like a lead balloon on this forum, but it's one of the reasons we need to seriously consider the Universal Basic Income.

At some point, machines are going to automate people out of jobs and it's going to be cheaper to just get a machine to do it. We need to be prepared for that.

If people were on a UBI, then the pandemic would have wrecked a lot fewer people's lives as their income wouldn't have been affected.

Of course, it's a radical proposal and there's always the topic of "well who's going to pay for it?" and I'd propose those super-rich tech companies that are putting people out of a job start by paying their fare share of tax, then we'll see where we are.

I say this all as someone who has a lot of job security at one of those tech companies.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Carth

Some was tongue in cheek, some not.

I do actually feel sorry for the 'lifestyle' of todays youngsters. Almost every aspect of their life is laid bare and open to scrutiny through that marvelous technology called the internet. I doubt there are any who don't have a presence on the major social websites, and it's all good fun . . until it suddenly isn't, and you can't rub out that little error of judgement that may follow you for years.

Progress is wonderful, without it we'd still be using the horse & cart, wood fires & candles, but it comes at a price. Machinery, computers & automation that improves production but reduces jobs. Medical advances that ensure longer life and reduced infant death rates, which means growing populations needing more housing.

No jobs, no housing, but a steady rise in mental health issues . . . I meant it when I said I miss the old days and the 'freedom' we had.

Great post.

Originally Posted by Pierre

i don't think any generation has been/or is worse off than the generation preceding it.

You can think that but it's not necessarily true.

[Carth]

Originally Posted by Pierre

i don't think any generation has been/or is worse off than the generation preceding it.

Originally Posted by Maggy

You can think that but it's not necessarily true.

It does make you wonder just how many decades the phrase "ee when I were a lad" has been uttered

This has nothing to do with the virus, back on topic people.

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by Carth

I was born 1954, my 'teenage' years were much better than those born in the late 1990's - early 2000's.

We didn't have to worry about not having the latest iPhone, we weren't bewildered and confused by having 300 channels of crap on the TV, the music we listened to was usually performed by people who could sing and/or play instruments without the need for technology to make them sound decent, comedians were actually funny, mums used washpowders that got your clothes clean - in machines that used hot water, boys were boys and girls were girls with very few confused about that, education meant using a brain along with books and pen & paper, food was mainly bought fresh from corner shops and tasted great when cooked, playing and socializing was done with real people not pixels on a screen, getting drunk only took 4 pints, masks were something Batman & The Lone Ranger wore, and one of our biggest fears was mum finding grass stains on the knees of our trousers.

I miss those days

mums used washpowders that got your clothes clean - in machines that used hot water

We still do - connecting stuff to the hot water pipe.

one of our biggest fears was mum finding grass stains on the knees of our trousers

There were better options available!

And, no Coronavirus yet.

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

We still do - connecting stuff to the hot water pipe.



There were better options available!

And, no Coronavirus yet.

The comment about Coronavirus doesn't really make this post on topic so please everyone get back on topic.

[1andrew1]

Some good but not unexpected news - Oxford trial has resumed
https://news.sky.com/story/coronavir...fects-12069919

[jfman]

We should pay young people who catch Coronavirus a reward for doing so. Herd immunity, after all...

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by jfman

We should pay young people who catch Coronavirus a reward for doing so. Herd immunity, after all...

Originally Posted by jfman

We should pay young people who catch Coronavirus a reward for doing so. Herd immunity, after all...

Yes and watch them take it home to granny,aunty and everyone vulnerable at home. You be a guinea pig if you like. Keep me out of it.

[jfman]

It wasn’t a serious suggestion. We all, or almost all, know herd immunity is a bad idea and doesn’t protect the economy.