Coronavirus (OLD)

[downquark1]

Originally Posted by Damien

I am pretty sure he means that the public's experiences of having freedoms we've typically taken for granted being restricted causes them to be more zealous about individual freedom when we get it back. Isn't that confusing?

Yes this, all the busy bodies will have it out of their system and everyone will be tired of them.

[mrmistoffelees]

Originally Posted by cimt

God help them being in a back to back. Those are really cramped spaces. I almost moved in one and I'm glad I never now. Still don't have a garden though...

Yeah, they bought it when they were still students..... been trying to get out for a while now

Not good news, but to be expected with new technology.

https://www.ft.com/content/f28e26a0-...b-b3a618ca659d

The UK government has admitted that none of the 17.5m antibody tests it ordered in the fight against the coronavirus pandemic work well enough to be used.

Ministers had high hopes that the arrival of the tests would give a much clearer picture about how many people had been infected by Covid-19, paving the way for an eventual easing of lockdown restrictions.

The failure of the tests is a significant setback and suggests Britain may be further away from being able to launch an effective programme of mass testing.

The government is working with nine companies that have developed coronavirus antibody tests, which screen for whether someone has recovered from the disease and is likely to be immune. The tests are being assessed by researchers at Oxford university — but each one has so far proven unreliable.

“Sadly, the tests we have looked at to date have not performed well,” wrote Professor John Bell, Regius Professor of Medicine at Oxford university on Monday.

“We see many false negatives (tests where no antibody is detected despite the fact we know it is there) and we also see false positives. None of the tests we have validated would meet the criteria for a good test as agreed with the Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency. This is not a good result for test suppliers or for us,” he said.

Last week Matt Hancock, the health secretary, said the government had placed a provisional order for 17.5m antibody tests. “We will only use them if they work,” he said.

Downing Street confirmed on Monday that “no test so far has been proved to be good enough to be used” and said it was working with the companies to improve their quality.

[denphone]

Alex Wickham has just reported breaking news about the PM Boris Johnson.

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No10:

‘Over the course of this afternoon, the condition of the Prime Minister has worsened and, on the advice of his medical team, he has been moved to the Intensive Care Unit at the hospital.'

[1andrew1]

Prime Minister Boris Johnson has been moved to intensive care in hospital after his coronavirus symptoms worsened, Downing Street has said.

Mr Johnson has asked Foreign Secretary Dominic Raab to deputise for him, a spokesman added.

The prime minister, 55, was admitted to St Thomas' Hospital in London with "persistent symptoms" on Sunday.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-52192604

Awful news. Both for him and his family but also the country.

[denphone]

Terrible news.

Dreadful news for all who know him and not the best news for the UK, although constitutionally he isn’t an executive president and there doesn’t have to be an election if the worst happens. The Tories are pretty good in a crisis and I reckon the 1922 committee would crown a successor pretty quickly.

Let’s not dwell on that though. I have a friend who was in and out of the ICU twice with C19 and he has pulled through. Going into intensive care isn’t the death knell and there’s still every reason to believe he will pull through. Here’s wishing him a speedy recovery anyway.

BREAKING: Prime Minister Boris Johnson suffered breathing difficulties and placed on oxygen before being moved in to ICU earlier tonight.

[jfman]

Nolan inviting callers on talking about him in the past tense ffs.

[Dave42]

get well soon as possible Boris

[Martin_D]

Get well soon Boris

[jfman]

https://www.theguardian.com/educatio...onavirus-study

Irresponsible headline from the Guardian here.

The actual study says school closures on their own have negligible effect. Of course not, if you let everyone else go about their daily business in offices, on public transport, gather at events, in pubs, clubs and other places to spread the virus then it stands to reason the difference is barely noticeable.

Originally Posted by jfman

https://www.theguardian.com/educatio...onavirus-study

Irresponsible headline from the Guardian here.

The actual study says school closures on their own have negligible effect. Of course not, if you let everyone else go about their daily business in offices, on public transport, gather at events, in pubs, clubs and other places to spread the virus then it stands to reason the difference is barely noticeable.

Agreed - from the article

Prof Neil Ferguson, of Imperial College London, who is one of the key epidemiologists advising the government, said: “While school closure as a measure on its own is predicted to have a limited effectiveness in controlling Covid-19 transmission, when combined with intense social distancing it plays an important role in severing remaining contacts between households and thus ensuring transmission declines.”

[downquark1]

Isn't this the paper that came out weeks ago? Did they only just read it?