Brexit (Old)

[ianch99]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

Sounds like 26% are a bit thick.

or they didn't really know what they were voting for ...

[RichardCoulter]

Originally Posted by jfman

There’s no evidence we are an international social security system. It’s simply a myth, and ignoring the reality that immigrants are less likely to be reliant on benefits than our own population. I dont for a minute believe people travel across the continent for a life of luxury on Universal Credit.

I like the comparison of racists and xenophobes to animals though, as they clearly don’t demonstrate the intelligence that humans are capable of.

Living on Universal Credit must be a hard existence, but to many immigrants this is a fortune compared to where they come from.

There is multiple evidence that people come here to take advantage of our welfare state.
As an example, this is why the Government are wanting to introduce enhanced ID checks for NHS users.

https://www.theguardian.com/technolo...q-to-singapore

Sir James Dyson, the British billionaire inventor and outspoken Brexiter, is moving the headquarters of his vacuum cleaner and hair dryer technology company to Singapore.

The company’s chief executive, Jim Rowan, said the move from Wiltshire to Singapore had “nothing to do with Brexit” but was about “future-proofing” the business. The move of Dyson’s legal entity from the UK to Singapore “will happen over the coming months”, meaning it could happen before Brexit.

Luckily for Dyson, this is in place...

https://www.politico.eu/article/eu-s...ee-trade-deal/

The European Union and Singapore today (16 December) announced that they have reached agreement on a free-trade deal, 33 months after they began formal negotiations.

This is the second free-trade agreement struck by the EU in Asia; the first – with South Korea – came into force in July 2011.


The EU began negotiations with Singapore in March 2010 after its hopes of lowering barriers with the ten-country Association of South-East Nations (Asean) were dashed in 2009, and Karel De Gucht, the European trade commissioner, said today he hoped the deal would “open the doors for FTAs [free-trade agreements] with other countries in the Asean region”.

Well obviously he is going to move to a place with an EU trade deal....

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by ianch99

or they didn't really know what they were voting for ...

I thought it was an opinion poll not a vote.

[denphone]

Originally Posted by Damien

Well obviously he is going to move to a place with an EU trade deal....

Nothing like brazen Brexit hypocrisy especially as he was claiming to speak for the thousands of British businesses that are hoping to manufacture in the UK after Brexit.

[Dave42]

Originally Posted by Damien

Well obviously he is going to move to a place with an EU trade deal....

another brexiteer hypocrite im be fine sod rest of the people

[Carth]

It's just business, nothing more. Move manufacturing to a country with low wages & long hours, build it cheap knowing the 'name' will sell it dear



edit: in fact it's a little like Range Rover & Slovakia

[Dave42]

Originally Posted by Carth

It's just business, nothing more. Move manufacturing to a country with low wages & long hours, build it cheap knowing the 'name' will sell it dear

how many job loses you happy to accept

[Carth]

Sorry Dave, I don't work for Dyson, and don't want to own one either . . . same as Range Rover

[Dave42]

Originally Posted by Carth

Sorry Dave, I don't work for Dyson, and don't want to own one either . . . same as Range Rover

avoided question I see

Originally Posted by Carth

It's just business, nothing more. Move manufacturing to a country with low wages & long hours, build it cheap knowing the 'name' will sell it dear

Of course it's business. It's just that one of the biggest business supporters of Brexit and how it will help British business is moving his British business out of Britain. It may not be because of the EU, although at the present rate he'll have better access to that market than he would here, but it's hardly a big confidence vote in this new dawn for British manufacturing he advocated for.

[Dave42]

Originally Posted by Damien

Of course it's business. It's just that one of the biggest business supporters of Brexit and how it will help British business is moving his British business out of Britain. It may not be because of the EU, although at the present rate he'll have better access to that market than he would here, but it's hardly a big confidence vote in this new dawn for British manufacturing he advocated for.

[jfman]

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

Living on Universal Credit must be a hard existence, but to many immigrants this is a fortune compared to where they come from.

There is multiple evidence that people come here to take advantage of our welfare state.
As an example, this is why the Government are wanting to introduce enhanced ID checks for NHS users.

There is nowhere in the European Union where the cost of living is so low that Universal Credit can be considered a “fortune”; you’re also ignoring the fact they have to live on it HERE.

There’s little to no evidence of any of what you suggest and even where such little instances do happen removing EU migration and EU trade is somewhat using a sledgehammer to crack a nut.

There’s no evidence the NHS will be better off when it has to take the time and effort to train staff rather than import them.

[Carth]

Originally Posted by Dave42

avoided question I see

A question you should really be asking yourself, you're the one that wants to stay in the EU.


. . . anyway, the topics are getting silly again, more going around in circles