12-03-2004, 22:36
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Channel Order?
For sometime now I've been trying to find out how most people order their channels using the favourites option?
I'd expect the first 6 channels are in the same order for most people. e.g.
1. BBC1
2. BBC2
3. ITV1
4. C4
5. five
6. Sky
After that, personal preference would probably mean your channels would be in a different order to mine and others.
Do you have all the UKTV channels together or like me have different sections like Music channels together, childrens together etc.
It seems sky is having a sort of the entertainment channels on its EPG, not sure if this will effect us NTL customers, altho I gather we're in for a channel renumbering sometime too.
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13-03-2004, 00:12
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Re: Channel Order?
Interesting one - on our boxes 1 - 5 are same, but 6 is ITV2, then most of the channels on our boxes are arranged in an order that resembles the old analogue channel sequence that was used in exCWC areas ... since all the new channels came along we've put them in where we can find "gaps" with our old line-up.
One thing sadly missed is the ability from the old CR2 software of being able to allocate consecutive "favourite" channel numbers, rather than having to jump from say, 31 for UKTV Gold to 812 for Sky Sports News!
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13-03-2004, 01:57
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Re: Channel Order?
CR3 upgrade did funny things to my channel order... bbc 2 wales (102) was found lurking somewhere near bravo... which was a bit strange!
I have now set it up so the channels with the numbers i can't remember come first... because i can always remember that 1-5 are 101-5 respectively!
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13-03-2004, 01:59
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Re: Channel Order?
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Originally Posted by monkeybreath
CR3 upgrade did funny things to my channel order... bbc 2 wales (102) was found lurking somewhere near bravo... which was a bit strange!
I have now set it up so the channels with the numbers i can't remember come first... because i can always remember that 1-5 are 101-5 respectively!
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Before the upgrade had you set any favourites up?
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13-03-2004, 03:15
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Re: Channel Order?
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Originally Posted by McYorkie
One thing sadly missed is the ability from the old CR2 software of being able to allocate consecutive "favourite" channel numbers, rather than having to jump from say, 31 for UKTV Gold to 812 for Sky Sports News!
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Yes I prefered that sort of numbering system too, but unfortunatly the broadcasters want identifiable (sp?) channel numbers so they can advertise the channel using just one channel number.
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15-03-2004, 01:00
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Re: Channel Order?
My order would see the UKTV channels banded next to each other, the Discovery channels together, the news channels together and the music channels I am likely to watch together as well.
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15-03-2004, 01:27
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Re: Channel Order?
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Originally Posted by Rillington
My order would see the UKTV channels banded next to each other, the Discovery channels together, the news channels together and the music channels I am likely to watch together as well.
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Yes - that would make more sense, instead of having to zip around the epg to find all of the ones that you want, and add a comprehensive renumbering of channels too, using up all of the gaps within the existing numbers. It would make setting favourites easier too.
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15-03-2004, 01:51
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Re: Channel Order?
Similar channel types should be grouped together, and into some sort of numerical sequence, rather than the randomisation that we now have..
For example, Movie channels are 51-61, but 51 is movies 1, 52 is movies 3, and so on. Daft. Yep, I know Sky renumbered a few months ago when they dropped the separate MovieMax and Premier channels, but at the time that ntl reprogrammed the idents on the programme guide, you'd have thought they could have put the channel numbers in the new sequence too?
Why on earth BBC news is channel 10 and then Sky news is 120 ITV news 123, I will never fathom.
As for the numbering of radio channels, It's as if someone had a tombola draw "ticket number 8** wins Capital FM!", In the midst of the radio stuff you get some worthless shopping channels, then it's back to radio, a few music video channels, radio. It's all over the place.
OK so some new channels have been launched and others have fallen by the wayside, so some of the sequencing has got jumbled. But was there any logic to it in the first place?
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15-03-2004, 05:00
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Re: Channel Order?
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Originally Posted by Rillington
My order would see the UKTV channels banded next to each other, the Discovery channels together, the news channels together and the music channels I am likely to watch together as well.
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Ahh here we have the quandary(sp?)
The UKTV channels include entertainment, lifestyle and documentary type channels, so if you have them all together you end up mixing styles of channels. eg UKTV Gold next too UKTV Style.
Speaking of the UKTV channels, at the mo in Bromley, we have
31 UKTV Gold
904 UKTV Gold +!
32 UKTV G2
I've sorted them next to each other in the faves list, but as you can see the channel numbers are out of order.
But if like me, you prefer your entertainment channels in one section, then you have to have Branded channels mixed up.
And again the music channels have the problem of do you sort by brand or style of music? I like all the pop channels together, so MTV Hits is split from MTV BASE etc.
I expect that the channel brands (eg MTV, UKTV) will want to have the channels next to each other.
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15-03-2004, 12:50
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Re: Channel Order?
I'd love to know the history of how all the numbers were thought of. Someone was definately smoking something.
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15-03-2004, 13:00
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Re: Channel Order?
They were originally designed along the lines of the packs available at the time. So (for CWC, at least) the original base pack channels have the low number, then it's sports and movies, the kids, etc. NTL were along the same lines.
Then NTL decided that from now on it would be a good idea to have the same channel numbers on both platforms for all new channels. So they decided that (almost) all new ones would go in the 800s and 900s. I was always under the impression that this was going to be temporary, until they'd worked out a new numbering scheme, but it increasingly looks permenant
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15-03-2004, 13:29
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Re: Channel Order?
Here's my order - logic in there somewhere, oh and all the dross at the bottom
Order
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15-03-2004, 13:32
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Re: Channel Order?
There seems to be two main camps on channel order.
1. Type of channel (eg all Music channels together)
2. Brand of channel (eg UKTV or Discovery together)
Both mixup different types or brand of channels.
Not sure how to do a poll but which type would you go for??
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15-03-2004, 13:42
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Re: Channel Order?
[QUOTE=Alanmelon]Here's my order - logic in there somewhere, oh and all the dross at the bottom
Order[/QUOTE
Show off  nice tho, are they screen caps??
If I'm reading it the right way, you seem to have your music channels quite early in the list?
Here is how I sort my channels
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/deus69/My_Channels.htm
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15-03-2004, 14:23
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Re: Channel Order?
I sort my channels in number order, all the channels I am subscribed to first, then the radio channels, then the channels I'm not subscribed to, all in numberical order for each section.
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