BT Infinity 1 going from 38 to 52Mb

[Ignitionnet]

Not a big deal for most of you guys but apparently BT are changing their Infinity 1 product to 'up to' 52Mb.

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showt...5#post82127415

I'm unsure whether it'll be an automatic increase for their users or involve recontracting. Either way I don't care as I won't use them on general principle of paying more for broadband and line rental to subsidise sport.

[jb66]

Why not do away with the cap and give folk what there line can take?

[Ignitionnet]

Originally Posted by jb66

Why not do away with the cap and give folk what there line can take?

They use what Openreach give them. Openreach have no plans to offer higher rated products and there aren't that many people who can get above 80Mb anyways.

[pip08456]

Originally Posted by Ignitionnet

They use what Openreach give them. Openreach have no plans to offer higher rated products and there aren't that many people who can get above 80Mb anyways.

I should imagine 300Mbps will be on offer within the next 3 years with G Fast but the roll out will be slow and painful.

[23prince]

Originally Posted by Ignitionnet

They use what Openreach give them. Openreach have no plans to offer higher rated products and there aren't that many people who can get above 80Mb anyways.

I used to be able to but then it's down to under 80 now and 20 up. I guess due to service take up but even that surprises me as the NGA was here 4 years before I moved here.

[Ignitionnet]

Originally Posted by pip08456

I should imagine 300Mbps will be on offer within the next 3 years with G Fast but the roll out will be slow and painful.

It's apparently going to be available to 10 million premises, 40% of the UK, by 2020.

Likely much of this will focus around deploying G.fast nodes next to existing FTTC nodes. That's the fastest, cheapest and easiest way to hit that number.

[pip08456]

Originally Posted by Ignitionnet

It's apparently going to be available to 10 million premises, 40% of the UK, by 2020.

Likely much of this will focus around deploying G.fast nodes next to existing FTTC nodes. That's the fastest, cheapest and easiest way to hit that number.

The roll-out starts sooner than that though.

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/news/6...2016-2017.html

[Ignitionnet]

Indeed it does. The pilot starts this summer in Cherry Hinton and Gillingham.

[pip08456]

The reason I said it would be slow and painful is that it will entail pushin fibre further out to users and you will always get the wingers and moaners wanting to know why they haven't got it whilst the guy in the next street has.

I'm sure they'll also be plenty of deployment challenges to face too.

[MadGamer]

I was thinking about this the other day.mmits all very well giving customers the increased speed, but you can only get the maximum your line can handle, plus if you live a considerable distance from the local cabinet, then you won't receive the full 52mb

[pip08456]

Originally Posted by MadGamer

I was thinking about this the other day.mmits all very well giving customers the increased speed, but you can only get the maximum your line can handle, plus if you live a considerable distance from the local cabinet, then you won't receive the full 52mb

Correct but if you have a HH5 it will tell you the max your line will support. I can also see Infinity 2 customers changing to the new Infinity 1 product depending on their stats.

The HH5 wasn't going to have the stats available until a loudmouth opened his gob!

[23prince]

Originally Posted by pip08456

Correct but if you have a HH5 it will tell you the max your line will support. I can also see Infinity 2 customers changing to the new Infinity 1 product depending on their stats.

The HH5 wasn't going to have the stats available until a loudmouth opened his gob!

I've just been offered access to the new Hub, I'll let you know if I get it.

[rhyds]

Originally Posted by pip08456

The reason I said it would be slow and painful is that it will entail pushin fibre further out to users and you will always get the wingers and moaners wanting to know why they haven't got it whilst the guy in the next street has.

I'm sure they'll also be plenty of deployment challenges to face too.

Out here "deployment challenges" include running fibre ducting along existing poles, and in some areas actually digging out and laying brand new ducting for FTTC/FTTdp installs, so I can see it being a fair while before we get full G.Fast.

[Ignitionnet]

Originally Posted by pip08456

The reason I said it would be slow and painful is that it will entail pushin fibre further out to users and you will always get the wingers and moaners wanting to know why they haven't got it whilst the guy in the next street has.

I'm sure they'll also be plenty of deployment challenges to face too.

I'm sure there will but 12 million premises by 2020 is far from slow. As I said much of the G.fast deployment will not involve deeper fibre.

It's hardly whinging and moaning to be unhappy when right at the edge of the rollout. Having worked with community here I sympathise greatly with those who had to wait and were stuck on sub-1Mb while those literally across the road were running at 40-80Mb.

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Originally Posted by rhyds

Out here "deployment challenges" include running fibre ducting along existing poles, and in some areas actually digging out and laying brand new ducting for FTTC/FTTdp installs, so I can see it being a fair while before we get full G.Fast.

Some areas were I believe covered by Superfast Cymru. G.fast will be a different story, however it can use the infrastructure that that project built, along with using the existing cabinets to help with backhaul.

[23prince]

Superfast Cymru are useless. They still tell me that my cabinet is not viable and will never be done....

They also tell me that the cabinet at my old house (which has literally this week got FTTC - and I was talking to them about it in 2012) is also not viable.

They have no clue.