12-06-2016, 13:14
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Rafalution
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Mass shooting in Florida
20 dead thus far and over 40 injures in yet another mass shooting in the US in Orlando, Florida. This comes the day after The Voice US star Christina Grimmie was shot dead in Orlando.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/36510272
Calling it an act of terrorism but no word on domestic of foreign. With claims the FBI are suggesting evidence is Islamic ideology whilst conflicting reports claim they're leaning towards domestic and a potential hate crime.
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A disturbing side fact. This is now the 173rd mass shooting of 2016 in the US. This is also one of the worst.
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12-06-2016, 13:39
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Re: Mass shooting in Florida
Sorry but we should stop covering these stories, I mean in a country where the right to carry a gun rules over everything, including child safety.
Do they carry stories about murders in the UK?
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12-06-2016, 13:58
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Re: Mass shooting in Florida
More guns is clearly the answer...
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12-06-2016, 13:59
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Re: Mass shooting in Florida
Trump will go to town on this story.
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12-06-2016, 15:25
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Re: Mass shooting in Florida
It seems it was a hate/terrorist crime against the LGBT community. 20 dead so far it seems making it one of the deadliest shootings in US history which already has a lot.
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Suspect named as Omar Mateen according to American news outlets.
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50 killed now.
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12-06-2016, 15:52
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Re: Mass shooting in Florida
My thoughts go to the people of Florida and hope the figures don't go up further, I'm not sure this is the time for any debate on gun control right now it should be about the people and their relatives.
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12-06-2016, 15:55
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Re: Mass shooting in Florida
If they didn't make any meaningful changes after Sandy Hook then I doubt 50 people bring murdered in a nightclub will result in any changes either.
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12-06-2016, 16:10
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Re: Mass shooting in Florida
Shocker, AR-15 yet again. Legally owned too I bet. They can rant about their rights all they want. I can't think of a single reason for any civilian on this planet to own an assault rifle. Why do they need an assault rifle and not a predetermined caliber handgun? Its not perfect but its a start. Seriously though the right to bear an assault rifle to defend yourself? Against what? A small army? These are weapons of war.
I'd agree this wasn't the time to debate gun control and thoughts should be on the relatives but seriously it'll be 2 months before the same thing just happens again. I feel for those involved, especially the mother of a victim that had microphones shoved into her face whilst clearly distressed but the fact is people will also die in the next one. They're getting great at responding to them but have absolutely no way to prevent them if anybody can just grab an assault rifle
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12-06-2016, 16:53
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Re: Mass shooting in Florida
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien
It seems it was a hate/terrorist crime against the LGBT community. 20 dead so far it seems making it one of the deadliest shootings in US history which already has a lot.
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Suspect named as Omar Mateen according to American news outlets.
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50 killed now.
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Just heard on LBC that the suspect's father has confirmed that his son has recently become increasingly angry having witnessed 2 men kissing...
There's really nothing more harmful than intolerance in a tolerant society.
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12-06-2016, 17:38
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Re: Mass shooting in Florida
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Originally Posted by Osem
There's really nothing more harmful than intolerance in a tolerant society.
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Yes there is: intolerance in a society where gun ownership is a constitutional right.
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12-06-2016, 18:02
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Re: Mass shooting in Florida
I wonder how much the religion of peace and it's views on homosexuality had to do with this?
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12-06-2016, 18:03
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Re: Mass shooting in Florida
It didn't. He ain't no Muslim, bruv, and any religious beliefs he may think he had were in no way related to his actions. No way, shape or form.
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12-06-2016, 18:07
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Re: Mass shooting in Florida
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Yes there is: intolerance in a society where gun ownership is a constitutional right.
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True, but if we go down that road we may as well ban any way that someone could kill another person and even then muslim fanatics will simply manufacture home made bombs.
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12-06-2016, 18:21
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Re: Mass shooting in Florida
Not really.
We (they) just need to ban the means of killing people on an industrial scale. The more difficult it is to make a point by killing someone, the fewer people will try.
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12-06-2016, 18:32
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Re: Mass shooting in Florida
One of my soon to be ex Facebook friends are going on more about the gunman being a Muslim, rather than ban guns.
Oh yeah no surprise that they are pro Trump.
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