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Old 20-05-2016, 23:08   #1
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Do you agree with plain cigarette packaging?

http://www.itv.com/news/border/2016-...tte-packaging/

No matter what the Government does concerning smoking. It will NOT stop people smoking.

You have have plain packets, showing every ghastly aspect of what happens to people who smokers.

I do not smoke, but its not up to me or the Government to stop people from smoking.

The Government make a fortune from smokers, and now they are wasting money on trying to prevent company selling cigarettes.

EVEN if you were charging £20.00 for twenty, people would still buy them.

And to ban 10 cigarettes, is just stupid. They will simply buy 20 cigarettes instead.

And the government will earn even extra TAX on them.

Cameron and Co must be thick if they try and take on the Tobacco Manufactureers, as l believe they are taking the Government to court over this.

Its like the Sugar Tax. Osborne lost on that - again. The Government will lose on this one
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Old 20-05-2016, 23:22   #2
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Re: This will not stop smokers

This is a war won by increments, and its working. Far less people smoke now than in the 70's for example, it'll take a while, but eventually smoking will be relegated to drug pushers.

As far as costs go, the old view was, what the Govt made in Tax, was spent on treating smokers & smoking related diseases on the NHS.
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Old 21-05-2016, 02:10   #3
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Re: This will not stop smokers

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This is a war won by increments, and its working. Far less people smoke now than in the 70's for example, it'll take a while, but eventually smoking will be relegated to drug pushers.

As far as costs go, the old view was, what the Govt made in Tax, was spent on treating smokers & smoking related diseases on the NHS.
The government makes much more in tax from smokers than it spends treating smoking related disease iirc
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Old 21-05-2016, 02:49   #4
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Re: This will not stop smokers

The biggest help to cutting numbers of smoker's now is e-cigarettes and they are far more effective then the usual rubbish NRT treatments currently handed out by all cessation services though some are now offering an e-cigarettes alternative. Unfortunately EU legislation called the tobacco products directive mainly article 20 will hit e-cigarettes very hard making it much harder for people to make the switch from tobacco and have a significantly less choice in making that switch. This government hasn't got a clue what it's doing in relation to tobacco beyond annual tax increases which clearly have nothing to do with getting people to quit and are all about revenue.
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Old 21-05-2016, 08:39   #5
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Re: This will not stop smokers

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No matter what the Government does concerning smoking. It will NOT stop people smoking.
http://ash.org.uk/files/documents/ASH_106.pdf

40 years ago, 45% of the U.K. population smoked cigarettes, now it's 19% - sorry, Arthur, reality disproves your proposition...
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Re: This will not stop smokers

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http://www.itv.com/news/border/2016-...tte-packaging/

No matter what the Government does concerning smoking. It will NOT stop people smoking.
It will stop a lot of people

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I do not smoke, but its not up to me or the Government to stop people from smoking.
There is a responsibility on the government .The government has responsibility to govern all aspects of our health

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The Government make a fortune from smokers, and now they are wasting money on trying to prevent company selling cigarettes.
The government do not make a single penny from cigarette sales ,they tax the product on our behalf to aid with the cost of running the NHS.Would you rather the government encourage smokers and spend more money on cancer treatment caused by smoking to the detriment of other illnesses.

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EVEN if you were charging £20.00 for twenty, people would still buy them.
Some probably would but a lot probably wouldn't .

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And to ban 10 cigarettes, is just stupid. They will simply buy 20 cigarettes instead.
It's perfectly sensible ,aimed at those with limited income like children .When i first started smoking you could buy single cigarettes ,perfect for my small amount of pocket money

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Cameron and Co must be thick if they try and take on the Tobacco Manufactureers, as l believe they are taking the Government to court over this.
The government won the case

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Its like the Sugar Tax. Osborne lost on that - again. The Government will lose on this one
Already won it Arthur
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Old 21-05-2016, 10:52   #7
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Re: This will not stop smokers

I smoke, and I could honestly say that I have no idea what is on the pack, either written or pictorial.

We seem to be following Australia in all things tobacco-related. And they have just announced a year-on-year massive tax increase that will see a pack cross the £20 level in a couple of years. So the revenue loss from those that stop smoking will be replaced by those that continue. A nice way to keep the coffers topped-up.
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Old 21-05-2016, 10:56   #8
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Re: This will not stop smokers

new EU meddling could see the return of the smoker

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-36349023
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Old 21-05-2016, 11:17   #9
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Re: This will not stop smokers

As e-cigs really only took off in the last 10 years, and the % of UK population who smoked in 2006 was 23%, probably not...
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Re: This will not stop smokers

Once the new generation get older and replace the current older generation i wouldn't be surprised to see the statistics for how many smokers there are plummet. I hardly ever see young people smoking anymore and those that do tend to be vaping rather than on cigarettes. Things like smoking and getting blitzed on alcohol are becoming less and less 'cool' to them.
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Re: This will not stop smokers

The drop in smoking started in the 1970s. Long before any specific measures were introduced.
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Re: This will not stop smokers

Free (or much cheaper) ciggies to the military during, and after WW2, meant a large rise in the percentage of smokers. Those hooked on nicotine during that period are dying out, so of course the percentages these days are dropping.
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Re: Do you agree with plain cigarette packaging?

Also the big rise in vapers is about to get hit by the TPD. (tobacco product directive) whichcould frive people back to cigs.
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Re: Do you agree with plain cigarette packaging?

Time to the same with beers wines & spirits
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Re: Do you agree with plain cigarette packaging?

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Time to the same with beers wines & spirits
what take the label off so you don't know what your drinking
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