UK jobless rate now heading to a 40-year low

[Ramrod]

Over the last five years, Cameron has overseen more job creation than any other peacetime Prime Minister. And he did this in a bust, not a boom. He cut taxes for employers, and for employees. He reformed welfare. Result: the greatest job-creation boom in UK history. Employers are so keen to hire that there are now more job vacancies than ever before.............the lowest jobless levels since the 1970s. And still the Prime Minister whose policies have brought this is neck-and-neck with one of the least popular Opposition leaders in recent history

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[Osem]

It's all Thatcher's fault - damned nasty evil Tories who hate the poor...

[peanut]

Osem - Arthur....... Hard to tell the difference....

[Osem]

They were going to abolish the 10p tax band just to irritate the poor but that closet Tory Gordon Brown beat them to it.

[TheDaddy]

Pay growth remains low and half the jobs have gone to foreign born immigrants. Kinda takes the gloss of it imo, still it is an achievement, of sorts.

[ianch99]

Originally Posted by Osem

It's all Thatcher's fault - damned nasty evil Tories who hate the poor...

Finally you are seeing the light ..

[Ramrod]

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

Pay growth remains low and half the jobs have gone to foreign born immigrants. Kinda takes the gloss of it imo, still it is an achievement, of sorts.

Well, there wouldn't have been so many immigrants here in the first place if it wasn't for Labour and as for 'pay growth', some job is better than no job.
Plus, if "Employers are so keen to hire that there are now more job vacancies than ever before" then there is an upward pressure on wages, so wages will rise.
That's what happened in Germany. The govt allowed employers to hire and (more importantly) fire, at will. That created more jobs and demand for workers.

[Osem]

Originally Posted by Ramrod

Well, there wouldn't have been so many immigrants here in the first place if it wasn't for Labour and as for 'pay growth', some job is better than no job.
Plus, if "Employers are so keen to hire that there are now more job vacancies than ever before" then there is an upward pressure on wages, so wages will rise.
That's what happened in Germany. The govt allowed employers to hire and (more importantly) fire, at will. That created more jobs and demand for workers.

Too true. It really is just another example of Labour's duplicity for them to try to absolve themselves of responsibility for the entirely predictable effects of the uncontrolled mass migration they unleashed upon the UK. They didn't give two hoots for the poor, low skilled indigenous workers who'd have to compete with cheaper foreign labour. Labour the party of the working man? Do me a favour. Labour is the party of unemployment and benefits culture.

[GrimUpNorth]

Originally Posted by Osem

Too true. It really is just another example of Labour's duplicity for them to try to absolve themselves of responsibility for the entirely predictable effects of the uncontrolled mass migration they unleashed upon the UK. They didn't give two hoots for the poor, low skilled indigenous workers who'd have to compete with cheaper foreign labour. Labour the party of the working man? Do me a favour. Labour is the party of unemployment and benefits culture.

Remind me what Dave "no ifs no buts" Cameron said he was going to do about immigration and what he's actually done about immigration?

Cheers

Grim

[Osem]

Originally Posted by GrimUpNorth

Remind me what Dave "no ifs no buts" Cameron said he was going to do about immigration and what he's actually done about immigration?

Cheers

Grim

He's achieved sweet FA but that's what getting out of the EU would sort out - something Labour's social engineering dept. would never even countenance. They won't even give us a referendum on the subject so it's clear to me which is more credible on the subject. Labour had a deliberate policy of mass migration, they opened the floodgates and they knew how hard it'd be to close them.

[GrimUpNorth]

Originally Posted by Osem

He's achieved sweet FA but that's what getting out of the EU would sort out - something Labour's social engineering dept. would never even countenance. They won't even give us a referendum on the subject so it's clear to me which is more credible on the subject. Labour had a deliberate policy of mass migration, they opened the floodgates and they knew how hard it'd be to close them.

And you truly believe Dave wants anything to change? IF we get a referendum he'll make sure he gets the result he wants, he so nearly screwed it up the last time he had one he'll make sure it goes his way next time.

I know you'll find it hard to believe but not everthing you consider to have gone wrong in the last 115 years has been the fault of Labour.

Cheers

Grim

[Hom3r]

If you add to list those that cannot be on the list, it will be through the roof.

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Ramrod

Well, there wouldn't have been so many immigrants here in the first place if it wasn't for Labour and as for 'pay growth', some job is better than no job.
Plus, if "Employers are so keen to hire that there are now more job vacancies than ever before" then there is an upward pressure on wages, so wages will rise.
That's what happened in Germany. The govt allowed employers to hire and (more importantly) fire, at will. That created more jobs and demand for workers.

Who signed us up to Europe in the first place and knew exactly what the grand plan and ramifications were all along. As usual if someone want to address an issue or look deeper at the 'facts' someone else will be along in moments to play party politics, might be why nothing ever gets done in this country.

With regard to pay we'll have to wait and see, I'm not to hopeful personally. The fact half the jobs have gone to immigrants means the pay will invariably be low or the bare minimum and the prevalence of zero hour contracts means it unlikely anyone can guarantee getting a living wage out of it.

[Ignitionnet]

Indeed. You find yourself wondering why the tax take continues to disappoint so much and prove so problematic as far as cutting the deficit further goes if everything in the labour market is so marvellous.

[Ramrod]

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

Who signed us up to Europe

Gordon Brown

With regard to pay we'll have to wait and see, I'm not too hopeful personally. The fact half the jobs have gone to immigrants means the pay will invariably be low or the bare minimum and the prevalence of zero hour contracts means it unlikely anyone can guarantee getting a living wage out of it.

Again, the reason we have so many migrants is because of Labour. Do you remember a figure of 13000 being quoted by Labour back then? As an aside.....I said it was rubbish back then and was called a racist here. I notice that Labour have since apologised for their 'miscalculation' on immigration. I've not yet had an apology from our left wing members for them calling me a racist. .
Again, the equivalent of zero hours contracts has dug Germany out of a hole and made it a booming economy. Give it time.