Nthell - The Future

ian@huth · 06-10-2003, 21:57

Copy of my post on .com

Nthell - The Future

THE PAST

Nthellworld.com was started by Frank as a protest site against NTL.

NTL eventually bought it.

NTL announce Community and changes to nthellworld.com

Nthellworld .co.uk is set up as a replacement for .com - not NTL owned.

THE PRESENT

Community site was opened with a knowledge base but no forum area but nothing has been done on the site for quite a while despite statements from Ashg that over 400 more topics were to be added to the knowledge base and we would soon see an improvement in the site.

Nthellworld .co.uk is chugging along but most of the posts have nothing to do with NTL and it has nothing of the feel of the old .com site.

Nthellworld.com has fewer members participating in the forums and the feel is significantly different to what it used to be. Posters who have something detrimental to say about NTL are soon pounced on by NTL employees who try to give the impression that NTL is the best, cheapest and only supplier of telecom, internet and TV services that anyone in their right mind should consider. Some of their claims are downright lies.

THE FUTURE

How will the three sites (.com, .co.uk and Community) develop in the future?

Will Community ever get off the ground?

Will .com regain its previous feel?

Will the "I love NTL, it's perfect" brigade get realistic and tell the situation as it is?

Will .co.uk ever get to replace .com and have the old "feel" of .com?

Will NTL customers ever be regarded as the people that matter to NTL and be given the service that they deserve.

DISCUSS

Graham F · 06-10-2003, 22:03

You should post this on the Community site as well!!

Damn it sorry you can't cos the forums aren't there yet are they

downquark1 · 06-10-2003, 22:09

I have to agree that .com seems to be better for technical problems.

Steve H · 06-10-2003, 22:19

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Originally Posted by downquark1

I have to agree that .com seems to be better for technical problems.

Depends what you mean by "Technical Problems"... If you mean general computer help.. Then this site offers the same, if not more expertise than .com

If you mean NTL related help - Then I believe we are less specfic with the help, such as helping out with proxies/DNS servers, etc, as we dont have the links .com has with NTL. Although, things can and hopefully will change.. and NTL will start worrying

Shaun · 06-10-2003, 22:22

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Originally Posted by Steve_NTL

, things can and hopefully will change.. and NTL will start worrying

I think they already have

If not they should

**Chris** · 06-10-2003, 23:44

NTL shot themselves in the foot by announcing Community. Would this site exist today if they had not threatened to nobble .com? I heard that this site would have started up eventually anyway, but without the threat of the axe over .com, would this site have attracted nearly as many members, and so quickly? Now there is a vibrant ntl-related forum out there that they cannot control, and to make it worse they have damaged .com without building themselves anything to replace it. There is still no forum at Community. The k-base, which should have been a good idea, sits gathering cobwebs like someone got bored with it very quickly. Bungling and incompetence from start to finish.

As for ntl-related help on this forum, .com may have the edge at the moment but that site is, sadly, on a downward spiral and once there is nowhere else to go I think it's inevitable this site will benefit from some of the displacement. After all, .com enjoyed unofficial help from staffers before it became ntl-owned, so no-one can say an independent site can't offer effective help.

I think it is easy for us to lose sight of the fact that this forum is only five months old, precisely because it has had such swift success. Give it time. I think this is the place to be.

Shaun · 06-10-2003, 23:48

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Originally Posted by towny

I think this is the place to be.

Here here (sorry Frank/Neil)

ian@huth · 06-10-2003, 23:54

I have often wondered if Community was just a ploy to lead to the demise of .com . Ashg has said that Community was designed to help a couple of million customers but I fail to see how this could be achieved. NTL seem hell bent on destroying .com and I don't believe that they ever thought that a replacement site for it would ever materialise. How wrong they were.

Alan Waddington · 06-10-2003, 23:56

The falling axe on the NTL forums has not been revoked AFAIK, merely a stay of execution.

As regards community, the knowledge base is a great idea (although it needs a bit of work on the SQL stoplist, which prevents any searches with common words - instead of just ignoring them - :sigh: )

07-10-2003, 00:01

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Originally Posted by dellwear

Here here (sorry Frank/Neil)

both both - sorry no-one

Shaun · 07-10-2003, 00:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by homealone

both both - sorry no-one

I feel so guilty though after meeting them and seeing what nice guys they are!

07-10-2003, 00:11

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Originally Posted by dellwear

I feel so guilty though after meeting them and seeing what nice guys they are!

aren't they, though, but you have to say what you think

Frank · 07-10-2003, 00:21

Don't feel guilty, I agree.

I encourage everyone to speak their mind openly.

Shaun · 07-10-2003, 00:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frank

Don't feel guilty, I agree.

I encourage everyone to speak their mind openly.

downquark1 · 07-10-2003, 10:49

If .com doesn't go down can we merge back with .com - I miss Mr. Mooney and jamesclarke555

Although here we don't get adds at the bottom