SD : Broadcast TV to close by 2030?

[RichardCoulter]

The CEO of Netflix compares linear television to the horse and streaming services to the car. The former was ok until the latter was invented!

http://www.thedrum.com/news/2014/11/...-will-die-2030

Do people think he is correct that linear TV will die by 2020?

[denphone]

Linear TV will continue to go on as not everybody want to stream things.

[nodrogd]

In 1975 Business Week predicted that within 20 years we would all be working in paperless offices. But many of us are still surrounded by the stuff!

[theone2k10]

deleted - ignore my rambling i've been at the old whiskey again.

[spiderplant]

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

Do people think he is correct that linear TV will die by 20x0?

No. Two reasons...
1) People like to watch things live
2) Some people would rather be spoonfed. Choosing what to watch is too much like hard work.

Originally Posted by nodrogd

In 1975 Business Week predicted that within 20 years we would all be working in paperless offices. But many of us are still surrounded by the stuff!

Out of interest, what job it that? I've worked pretty much paperless since the mid 1990s. Curiously VM still require a copy of expense claims on paper (maybe it's an HMRC requirement?), but I print very little else.

[RichardCoulter]

Originally Posted by spiderplant

No. Two reasons...
1) People like to watch things live
2) Some people would rather be spoonfed. Choosing what to watch is too much like hard work

I think (and hope) that you're right. There's something collective and social in many people watching the same programme at the same time.

Whilst I find it useful (and do use) VOD, there's something cold and clinical about it. The best anallergy as to what i'm getting at is that I think that people would rather listen to a live DJ led show, rather than listen to an automated radio station where the content is chosen by a computer- even if the actual tracks played were identical!

There was something to be said for the days when any major film or new drama was shown and the day after most, if not everybody, at work had seen it and were discussing it.

Perhaps internet forums now fill this gap??

[Matth]

Do we want to be our own channel scheduler?
It's one thing being able to catch up on something you missed but to pick something for EVERY time slot!!

[harry_hitch]

Originally Posted by spiderplant

No. Two reasons...
1) People like to watch things live
2) Some people would rather be spoonfed. Choosing what to watch is too much like hard work.


Out of interest, what job it that? I've worked pretty much paperless since the mid 1990s. Curiously VM still require a copy of expense claims on paper (maybe it's an HMRC requirement?), but I print very little else.

Apologies for butting in on your conversation SP, but in food retail we use masses of paper on a daily basis. In waitrose all managers have been issued with Ipads, but the apps we use are pretty awful, and sadly they will not stop us using paper. An example of the paper we have to use/waste is that despite the fact we have to hand write a brief description of any changes to internal policy on a (paper) weekly checklist to show our understanding of the changes, we now have to print hard copies of the information gfrom the intranet and keep that sheet as well. This is all preventable as all the changes are stored online anyway. Complete waste of our time.
Other areas we have to use lots paper include the shop being separated into 5 different sections, and each section has to print off at least 2 different pages of rota's for each week. If a customer wants shopping delivered, we have 2 copies of the paperwork, one for us, one for the customer. If you were to walk in and order a case of wine to be picked up in 5 weeks time, again it will be 2 copies of paperwork (although they would go to 2 different sections this time.) Each section also has daily rotas, in which we write who is in each day because we need 2-3 people a day to run the sections and passing a paper copy along to next person in charge is the only way we can do it.

We go really do go through reams of paper a month, thankfully it is all recycled.

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

The CEO of Netflix compares linear television to the horse and streaming services to the car. The former was ok until the latter was invented!

http://www.thedrum.com/news/2014/11/...-will-die-2030

Do people think he is correct that linear TV will die by 2020?

Is it okay though? What if Sky continue to launch exclusives?

Providing FTA broadcasting continues (and I believe it should) surely letting all content providers sell their content via their own streaming services is the future? At least that way you can pick and choose what you want to watch, and mange how much you want to spend per month.

[passingbat]

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

The best anallergy as to what i'm getting at is that I think that people would rather listen to a live DJ led show, rather than listen to an automated radio station where the content is chosen by a computer- even if the actual tracks played were identical!

I stopped listening to music radio stations years ago; pretty soon after the first legal streaming service launched in the UK and was followed by others. You get rid of the inane babble of the DJ and get to choose your own music.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by denphone

Linear TV will continue to go on as not everybody want to stream things.

Yes, Den, but 15 years ago hardly anyone used the internet to shop, and even seven years ago, a lot of people wouldn't go there. But now, it's taken off.

It's only a matter of time before we all select our own viewing. As the younger generation brings into the population the latest ways of doing things, it is only a matter of time before these old ways really do start looking antiquated.

Why anyone should want to watch live broadcasting these days (apart from sport), I really don't know. Those ads drive me mad, as does having to wait until a previous programme ends before I can watch the one I'm waiting for to start!

[passingbat]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

Why anyone should want to watch live broadcasting these days (apart from sport), I really don't know. Those ads drive me mad, as does having to wait until a previous programme ends before I can watch the one I'm waiting for to start!

Agreed. A situation that a PVR solved for me years ago. Streaming isn't quite there yet for current episodes of all shows... but it's getting there.

[muppetman11]

Originally Posted by passingbat

Agreed. A situation that a PVR solved for me years ago. Streaming isn't quite there yet for current episodes of all shows... but it's getting there.

Streaming still has a long way to go in my opinion , most streaming services are packed with content that aired on pay TV/terrestrial TV ages ago (originals and the odd show being the exception).

Until streaming services are showing predominantly first run content people will stick with linear pay TV.

[passingbat]

Originally Posted by muppetman11

Until streaming services are showing predominantly first run content people will stick with linear pay TV.

BBC and Now TV are the ones I was thinking of when I said it's getting there. All the other UK services are filled with adds when watching on Catchup. Now TV has a few channel Identity adds, which aren't really needed but they only last a few seconds (at least on the current season of The Newsroom).
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[Dash: CF noob]

Maybe we will end up with just a handful of live tv channels I.E. ITV/BBC/c4 etc.
so last century.

[heero_yuy]

Originally Posted by passingbat

BBC and Now TV are the ones I was thinking of when I said it's getting there. All the other UK services are filled with adds when watching on Catchup. Now TV has a few channel Identity adds, which aren't really needed but they only last a few seconds (at least on the current season of The Newsroom).
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BBC is stuffed with adverts for their own programmes and services. Much more boring than the commercial commercials that try to gain our attention.

The only things I can see surviving the viewing revolution is rolling news broadcasts.