Looks like Virgin are determined to flush out old modems
03-10-2013, 18:23
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Looks like Virgin are determined to flush out old modems
I was hoping for shrub2 but ended up with a shrub one some weeks back.
So decided to keep using the old reliable work horse on 120mb.
Started getting grumpy text messages on my mobile. The last one return the hub now if you don't intend to activate it in seven days. Guess they wish old kit of the network.
Since I was getting some slow downs in the evening I've activated it.
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03-10-2013, 18:52
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Re: Looks like Virgin are determined to flush out old modems
deary me dude, you have shot yourself in the foot big time. I assuming you had a vmng300 before if you are on 120mbit, you should have kept. Technically a shub could improve your evening speeds as it can load balance across more channels but if your area is prone to congestion I would assume the other channels would be in the same position and thus any performance increase would be marginal.
I don't know if this has been covered in another thread yet but I am curious to know whether they have stopped producing shub1's yet and trying to get rid of their stock so they can focus on shub2's. I hope they aren't still buying them because they are way behind the mark now technlogy wise and should be EOL. I need to pick Ben's brains.
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03-10-2013, 19:20
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Re: Looks like Virgin are determined to flush out old modems
Yeah mon General. But won't he now be in modem mode because he only had a modem before?
So he won't be worse off, may be marginally better off.
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03-10-2013, 19:22
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Re: Looks like Virgin are determined to flush out old modems
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth
Yeah mon General. But won't he now be in modem mode because he only had a modem before?
So he won't be worse off, may be marginally better off.
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Yup Modem mode. I could have ignored the text. What would they do send a bailiff for it????
Seems to be okay.
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03-10-2013, 19:30
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Re: Looks like Virgin are determined to flush out old modems
You tagged this 120M. I thought they were only issuing Superhub 1s for 30Mb and every other speed get the superhub 2
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03-10-2013, 20:48
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Re: Looks like Virgin are determined to flush out old modems
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Originally Posted by v0id
You tagged this 120M. I thought they were only issuing Superhub 1s for 30Mb and every other speed get the superhub 2 
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Nope clearly not.
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03-10-2013, 21:31
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Re: Looks like Virgin are determined to flush out old modems
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth
Yeah mon General. But won't he now be in modem mode because he only had a modem before?
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too true too true
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Originally Posted by v0id
You tagged this 120M. I thought they were only issuing Superhub 1s for 30Mb and every other speed get the superhub 2 
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only for fauilts and new 120mbit customers. They aren't sending them out willy nilly to existing 120mbit customers otherwise we'd all have one. Tbh even if one arrived in the post tomorrow i still wouldn't use it. I would keep it safe in its box until I started having speed problems and then I would ring up and get it registered.
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03-10-2013, 21:44
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Re: Looks like Virgin are determined to flush out old modems
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Originally Posted by General Maximus
too true too true
only for fauilts and new 120mbit customers. They aren't sending them out willy nilly to existing 120mbit customers otherwise we'd all have one. Tbh even if one arrived in the post tomorrow i still wouldn't use it. I would keep it safe in its box until I started having speed problems and then I would ring up and get it registered.
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They'd ask for it back mate.
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03-10-2013, 21:58
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Re: Looks like Virgin are determined to flush out old modems
i had 2 shub1's and they never asked for them back
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03-10-2013, 22:06
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Re: Looks like Virgin are determined to flush out old modems
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Originally Posted by General Maximus
i had 2 shub1's and they never asked for them back
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I bet they would now.
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04-10-2013, 22:37
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Re: Looks like Virgin are determined to flush out old modems
remember seph my last 2 months on VM with the shub in modem mode, I had more latency than the vmng300 and in ssh terminal's I could visibly see the extra jitter. So I personally think a shub1 in modem mode (even with new firmware) is not upto par of a vmng300.
The jitter on my shub1 only went down when VM did a node split, bonded the US channels and added DS channels to make 8, in my last few weeks of service. I think even then tho ssh still felt more jittery than the vmng300 did.
shub2 I got no idea as I never used one.
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04-10-2013, 22:40
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Re: Looks like Virgin are determined to flush out old modems
i have a superhub 1 in a box here that they have never asked for it back.
Im now using a Superhub 2 in modem mode alongside a Netgear WNDR3700V4 and works like a dream.
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Originally Posted by Chrysalis
remember seph my last 2 months on VM with the shub in modem mode, I had more latency than the vmng300 and in ssh terminal's I could visibly see the extra jitter. So I personally think a shub1 in modem mode (even with new firmware) is not upto par of a vmng300.
The jitter on my shub1 only went down when VM did a node split, bonded the US channels and added DS channels to make 8, in my last few weeks of service. I think even then tho ssh still felt more jittery than the vmng300 did.
shub2 I got no idea as I never used one.
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Well here is mine....
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04-10-2013, 22:41
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Re: Looks like Virgin are determined to flush out old modems
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Originally Posted by alanbjames
i have a superhub 1 in a box here that they have never asked for it back.
Im now using a Superhub 2 in modem mode alongside a Netgear WNDR3700V4 and works like a dream.
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Well here is mine....

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are you on my node? no.
and also to point out my shub felt jittery regardless of what my tbb graph looked like.
those who were on this forum in 2012 may remember what my graphs looked like when I changed from the vmng300 to the shub1.
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04-10-2013, 22:55
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Re: Looks like Virgin are determined to flush out old modems
someones a bit touchy about their node.
U said u had no idea what about a SH2 so i posted mine, whats the problem?
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05-10-2013, 01:00
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Re: Looks like Virgin are determined to flush out old modems
The fact that yours has nothing to do with his.
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