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Old 23-07-2013, 20:10   #1
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Sky Fibre and VM BB

Ok I am vague on what I need to use both these together

I have looked at dual wan routers but I have seen that some only switch to one wan when the other net connection drops. Am I right in assuming I need a bonding router? does anyone have any experience of these? anyone use one? anyone used VM and SKY fibre together?
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Re: Sky Fibre and VM BB

You can't use a bonding router on its own as you need bonding to be supported at the ISP as well. Service such as Shareband appear to do something along the right lines.

I used a dual WAN router to load balance across a VM and ADSL connection but had problem with secure sites as they need all traffic to come from one IP address. The router allowed me to specify a particular WAN for a specific target IP address but then failed of course if the WAN specified went down.

I abandoned the project in the end...
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Re: Sky Fibre and VM BB

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Ok I am vague on what I need to use both these together

I have looked at dual wan routers but I have seen that some only switch to one wan when the other net connection drops. Am I right in assuming I need a bonding router? does anyone have any experience of these? anyone use one? anyone used VM and SKY fibre together?
This works

http://www.clearfoundation.com/Software/overview.html

http://www.clearcenter.com/support/d...uide/multi-wan

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The ClearOS multi-WAN has the following features:

auto-failover
load balanced
round-robin based on user-defined weights

To give you an example of how multi-WAN works, imagine two 1 Mbit/s DSL lines with two users on the local network. With every new connection to a server on the Internet, the multi-WAN system alternates WAN interfaces. User A could be downloading a large file through WAN #1, while User B is making a voice-over-IP (VoIP) telephone call on WAN #2.

With some applications, the download speed for the multi-WAN system can use the full 2 Mbit/s available. For example, downloading a large file from a peer-to-peer network will use the bandwidth from both WAN connections simultaneously. This is possible since the peer-to-peer technology uses many different Internet “peers” for downloading. At the other end of the spectrum, consider the case of downloading a large file from a web site. In this case, only a single WAN connection is used – 1 Mbit/s maximum.

Bandwidth aggregation (combining multiple WAN interfaces to look like a single WAN interface) is not possible without help for your ISP since both ends of an Internet connection must be configured.
I have had this working no problem at all when i used torrents
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Re: Sky Fibre and VM BB

Sirius, yes, that would work and looks to be very similar to pfSense.
However, my gripe about this is the cost of running a server 24 X 7 to do this. I used to think a server didn't add much to the electricity bill until I replaced it with a NAS.
Frankly I was shocked at the drop in electricity consumption, hence the reluctance in reinstating this as a software solution.
I'm looking at the Vigor 3200, which should do all I need and hopefully have fairly low running costs to boot
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Re: Sky Fibre and VM BB

Well after long deliberations I've actually purchased a TP-Link TL-ER5120 Multi WAN Router.
Installed last night and so far so good. Both VM and BT connected without any hassle, and I configured my RT-66 as a Wireless Access Point for the router.

NOTE!! This does not do bonding, just Load Balancing and Failover!!

However, there is an awful lot of configuration to be done yet, so I expect this router to perform even better once I've had a chance to get my head around the many features
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Re: Sky Fibre and VM BB

That means while I'm waiting for BT to move my VDSL incoming, you'll have cracked optimum and I can freeload off you, Adduxi!
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That means while I'm waiting for BT to move my VDSL incoming, you'll have cracked optimum and I can freeload off you, Adduxi!
LOL, not a problem Seph!

Being an 'Enterprise' unit, it is full of options I don't understand, and many I don't need. But so far, it is performing everything I wanted, i.e. Dual WAN and has given me no problems so far. The only downside is I can't see any options to send the traffic logs to my Syslog server....
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Re: Sky Fibre and VM BB

A bit overkill considering you could do the same on a £10 router which costs £4 a year in electricity to run...
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A bit overkill considering you could do the same on a £10 router which costs £4 a year in electricity to run...
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Re: Sky Fibre and VM BB

Helpful as ever is the way I might have put it - in the same vein!
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Re: Sky Fibre and VM BB

You didn't ask for help, you just went ahead and bought something then said it's got tons of stuff you don't need but not something you do!
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Re: Sky Fibre and VM BB

I don't see the point in your knocking Adduxi for his choice. It's negative and unhelpful.

BTW, he chose it for a prime purpose that a £10 router could not reliably handle. Indeed what reliable £10 Multi-WAN router is out there? I can afford to waste that to see if it does the job as you dsay it will.
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You didn't ask for help, you just went ahead and bought something then said it's got tons of stuff you don't need but not something you do!
Correct and right, your Honor. It's a fair cop .....

In fairness though, not being an expert, I didn't know a £10 router could do Dual WAN. Everything I looked at was a tad more expensive.
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So I could bond two superhubs for a tenner? How, what, where?
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Correct and right, your Honor. It's a fair cop .....

In fairness though, not being an expert, I didn't know a £10 router could do Dual WAN. Everything I looked at was a tad more expensive.
Jeez, Adduxi - what you doing giving Qasi credit for his remarks?
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