30M Finally had enough of VM BS...........

Mick Fisher · 03-08-2012, 17:58

I got STM'ed during Happy Hour again.

I downloaded 4gig between 1.00pm and 3.30pm. As my tier gets allowed 7gig between 10am till 3pm and 3pm till 4pm is supposedly un-metered, to be STM'ed is taking the proverbial IMO.

Although I had no need to download anything else today, the fact that VM make up all their stupid traffic throttling schemes and then don't even bother sticking to them got right up my nose.

That, the abysmal Indian support, the abysmal superhub and having to wait for about another year for speed doubling has pushed me over the edge and I have ordered Sky Fibre 80/20 and Sky Talk.

I got Free Installation, the Sky Fibre is the same price as my 30meg VM and Sky Talk is way cheaper than my BT phone so overall I will save a little cash and hopefully get a better BB experience.

Fingers crossed anyway. I've been told to expect at least 67meg down with absolutely no throttling of any kind whatsoever. Install date is 20th August.

vmfriend · 03-08-2012, 18:21

Doesn't the traffic management depend on the type of download, P2P is treated differently to 'other' traffic, that's been discussed ad nauseum on here anyway, good luck with Sky.

Chrysalis · 04-08-2012, 06:41

STM doesnt care what type of traffic it is.

Although I just ignore STM now as its a 50% theottle now instead of 75%. I can download at 15mbit/sec even when STM'd.

vmfriend · 04-08-2012, 07:31

Ah ok thanks for clarifying. Yes when I downloaded mountain lion and all the associated updates I was throttled to 15mb but it doesn't really bother me that much to be honest.

babis3g · 04-08-2012, 14:41

when your speeds lower due to stm, the ping did got higher ????thanks

Mick Fisher · 04-08-2012, 19:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by babis3g

when your speeds lower due to stm, the ping did got higher ????thanks

I don't think so. Speed just went from 34/3 to 17/3 at just past 3.00 pm.

It's happened before a couple of times.

I just got tired of clock watching just to make a few small downloads.

**Hugh** · 04-08-2012, 19:24

More than 7GB - new definition of 'small' I hadn't come across before.....

Peter_ · 04-08-2012, 19:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh

More than 7GB - new definition of 'small' I hadn't come across before.....

Probably wants to download the

or believes should be allowed to.

muppetman11 · 04-08-2012, 20:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mick Fisher

I got STM'ed during Happy Hour again.

I downloaded 4gig between 1.00pm and 3.30pm. As my tier gets allowed 7gig between 10am till 3pm and 3pm till 4pm is supposedly un-metered, to be STM'ed is taking the proverbial IMO.

Although I had no need to download anything else today, the fact that VM make up all their stupid traffic throttling schemes and then don't even bother sticking to them got right up my nose.

That, the abysmal Indian support, the abysmal superhub and having to wait for about another year for speed doubling has pushed me over the edge and I have ordered Sky Fibre 80/20 and Sky Talk.

I got Free Installation, the Sky Fibre is the same price as my 30meg VM and Sky Talk is way cheaper than my BT phone so overall I will save a little cash and hopefully get a better BB experience.

Fingers crossed anyway. I've been told to expect at least 67meg down with absolutely no throttling of any kind whatsoever. Install date is 20th August.

Keep us posted how you get on Mick , this will probably be my next move when we finally get fibre.

Mick Fisher · 05-08-2012, 12:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh

More than 7GB - new definition of 'small' I hadn't come across before.....

Please get the facts right.

Nowhere have I said I downloaded "More than 7GB".

Anyway I have no need to as I downloaded the Internet years ago and these days just need the occasional update.

Anyway this is not about how much I downloaded it's about VM not honouring the Traffic Managing rules they themselves set.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter_

Probably wants to download the

or believes should be allowed to.

Done that and got the T-Shirt.

---------- Post added at 12:59 ---------- Previous post was at 12:58 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11

Keep us posted how you get on Mick , this will probably be my next move when we finally get fibre.

Will do.

yorkshireborn · 05-08-2012, 14:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter_

Probably wants to download the

or believes should be allowed to.

well with sky fibre he will be allowed to without being throttled.

gj4009 · 05-08-2012, 14:59

Not being funny but its really not that hard these days to hit the traffic management limit. So the sarcy comments about him wanting to download the earth are a bit stupid. 2 HD films at about 2.5 - 3 gigs each and a game demo and your done ... i've done it myself a few times, Download a film from Sky anytime watch it, download another while im watching the first downloaded, once films are watched pop onto xbox live and download a demo or a new game if im feeling a bit flush with money that weekend and boom. Cannot wait for my Sky Fibre install to be honest so i can get rid of this jittered, congested overly managed mess that is virgins network...

Sirius · 05-08-2012, 15:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mick Fisher

Please get the facts right.

Nowhere have I said I downloaded "More than 7GB".

Anyway I have no need to as I downloaded the Internet years ago and these days just need the occasional update.

Anyway this is not about how much I downloaded it's about VM not honouring the Traffic Managing rules they themselves set.

---------- Post added at 12:58 ---------- Previous post was at 12:57 ----------

Done that and got the T-Shirt.

.

Me to

---------- Post added at 15:05 ---------- Previous post was at 15:02 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by gj4009

Not being funny but its really not that hard these days to hit the traffic management limit. So the snarky comments about him wanting to download the earth are a bit stupid. 2 HD films at about 2.5 - 3 gigs each and a game demo and your done ... i've done it myself a few times, Download a film from Sky anytime watch it, download another while i'm watching the first downloaded, once films are watched pop onto xbox live and download a demo or a new game if i'm feeling a bit flush with money that weekend and boom. Cannot wait for my Sky Fibre install to be honest so i can get rid of this jittered, congested overly managed mess that is virgins network...

End of the day i don't give a fig about STM, my connection goes from 100 meg down to 50 meg which is still a decent speed and far better than any of my friends on ADSL

I download what i want, when i want, how i want,.

muppetman11 · 05-08-2012, 16:53

heres my parents upto 20mb speed

gj4009 · 05-08-2012, 16:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sirius

Me to

---------- Post added at 15:05 ---------- Previous post was at 15:02 ----------

End of the day i don't give a fig about STM, my connection goes from 100 meg down to 50 meg which is still a decent speed and far better than any of my friends on ADSL

I download what i want, when i want, how i want,.

Ok then, really happy for you ...

not everyone wants, needs or can afford 100mb the point i was making is the usage caps before you hit traffic management are low by todays internet usage standards. Netflix streams in HD, Lovefilm streams in HD, game demos, patches or a full game, Sky Anytime+, HD youtube streaming, bbc iplayer, 4od etc etc take your pick from the plethora of bandwidth hungry services the internet is used for. End of the day virgin are forcing peoples hands into either living with permanent traffic management or taking the higher end (more expensive) internet packages. Funny on this forum i read all about Sky forcing peoples hands into taking up services because of thier greed, seems like virgin are doing the same thing here.