No charge for Texas dad who killed daughter's rapist
20-06-2012, 15:45
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No charge for Texas dad who killed daughter's rapist
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A US father who found his five-year-old daughter being raped, then beat the attacker to death will not be charged, prosecutors have said.
The 23-year-old man told police he found the girl being assaulted on Saturday 9 June by Jesus Mora Flores in a rural part of southern Texas.
A grand jury has declined to indict the man, finding that he was allowed to use deadly force to protect his daughter.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-18522383
I would have done exactly the same as he did if i was in the same situation
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20-06-2012, 15:47
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Re: No charge for Texas dad who killed daughter's rapist
A excellent decision. 
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20-06-2012, 16:06
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Re: No charge for Texas dad who killed daughter's rapist
Somehow I suspect you wouldn't get a similar verdict in this country.  The Yanks have a greater tolerance than us for use of force, why else are there so many guns available, and a consequence of that is that deadly force is more readily anticipated whereas in the UK we seem to prefer reasonable force, which means that you have to back off when the threat has subsided.
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20-06-2012, 17:27
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Re: No charge for Texas dad who killed daughter's rapist
I think he probably did what most fathers would have done in similar circumstances.
Hope he and his daughter manage to get over this ordeal.
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20-06-2012, 18:03
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Re: No charge for Texas dad who killed daughter's rapist
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Somehow I suspect you wouldn't get a similar verdict in this country. |
I'm not too sure about that. It's not as if you can't use violence, the issue is whether the violence is proportional. We're talking about an extreme situation here. He didn't shoot someone making a getaway after stealing a lawn mower from the shed. Also, he called 911, telling them the guy was dying, so he didn't keep punching the guy until he was dead. Given what we know, it sounds like proportional use of force to me, and I'd be surprised if the verdict were different here.
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20-06-2012, 18:09
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Re: No charge for Texas dad who killed daughter's rapist
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Originally Posted by Rob
Somehow I suspect you wouldn't get a similar verdict in this country. The Yanks have a greater tolerance than us for use of force, why else are there so many guns available, and a consequence of that is that deadly force is more readily anticipated whereas in the UK we seem to prefer reasonable force, which means that you have to back off when the threat has subsided. |
You would get treated like royalty if you got sent down though
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20-06-2012, 18:15
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Re: No charge for Texas dad who killed daughter's rapist
I agree with outcome...I couldn't give any other verdict
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20-06-2012, 18:45
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Re: No charge for Texas dad who killed daughter's rapist
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I'm not too sure about that. It's not as if you can't use violence, the issue is whether the violence is proportional. We're talking about an extreme situation here. He didn't shoot someone making a getaway after stealing a lawn mower from the shed. Also, he called 911, telling them the guy was dying, so he didn't keep punching the guy until he was dead. Given what we know, it sounds like proportional use of force to me, and I'd be surprised if the verdict were different here.
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I think you are correct ,i believe there are cases where it has been decided that it is not in the public interest to prosecute the death of a criminal such as this recent one .I would still be worried though because of the inconsistencies in our justice system
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...ester-14248097
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20-06-2012, 20:16
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Re: No charge for Texas dad who killed daughter's rapist
Finally someone in this world with common sense. I would have done the exact same thing myself.
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20-06-2012, 22:23
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Re: No charge for Texas dad who killed daughter's rapist
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Finally someone in this world with common sense. I would have done the exact same thing myself.
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Wouldn`t we all mate. 
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21-06-2012, 14:25
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Re: No charge for Texas dad who killed daughter's rapist
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I agree with outcome...I couldn't give any other verdict
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No question about that. I just hope the family get over it.
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21-06-2012, 18:53
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Re: No charge for Texas dad who killed daughter's rapist
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I know the Law is different in the US but looking at the story then the crucial part is that there appears to be no intent to kill the rapist - it looks like he happened to suffer a fatal blow as part of a struggle - even the conversation with the police looks like he was worried that he was going to die. If he had shot him then the case would have been all about whether he picked the shotgun up before he hunted for the rapist, or whether he happened to have it on him at the time, or whether deadly force includes shooting people.
I would have done the same.
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