Superhub can we really write it off?

RB2004 · 17-12-2011, 16:46

Hi,

loads of people, write off the superhub, but now R30 is out.. is it a misconception and quick judgement that we should all write off the superhub as a useless piece of junk.. in favour of the VMNG300.

Previously prior to R30, I have to agree with using the VMNG300... superhub rebooted all the time, its wireless was next to unusable with constant dropouts. However R30 does seem to of resolved most of these complaints and I have to say ive not had to reboot for a long time now.

Wireless range isnt much to be desired for though lol, as is build quality.. I had a cable connection rip straight out the back.. and when I opened the unit to repair it found there to be next to 0 solder holding it in to begin with.

But I wouldnt say the superhub is still that piece of junk many people make it out to be.. and in the right conditions it can achieve the top speed happily as shown below,

and from what I can see, anybody with is having unsatisfactory quality in regards to wireless or the inbuilt switch or routing capabilities can put the device into modem mode which makes it just like the VMNG300 anyway.. with the added bonus of supporting more channels which VM are currently rolling out.. 5 in some areas already. When the VMNG300 only supports 4 channels.

yes ok.. the service will work on 4 channels but if it is load balanced over more channels you are more likely to hit the top speed and have a more consistent speed.

So ive opened this thread as a debate and poll of oppinion.

buckleb · 17-12-2011, 17:45

It works perfectly fine in modem mode and that's what I voted.

Having a combined cable modem and router is a good idea, no doubt about it, but the implementation has not been as good as the concept.

I expect that the faults will be fixed in due course, as Netgear aren't exactly amateurs at this sort of thing, so hopefully we will see the product become what was intended.

General Maximus · 17-12-2011, 18:21

[QUOTE=buckleb;35347116]Netgear aren't exactly amateurs at this sort of thingQUOTE]

exactly, so how on earth have they been able to go the best part of a year fobbing people off with what was basically a worthless piece of junk. I don't know how they got away with it tbh. At the end of the day even if they come out with an update that fixed everything and made it work perfectly, the damage is already done.

Even though the whole point of the shub is that it is future proof, it isn't going to be around in 2 years and they'll have something else, but knowing how they have handled the shub, I won't be looking forward to any new hardware when it is announced, I'll be holding my head in my hands crying.

Peter_ · 17-12-2011, 18:24

It is rather pointless including the VMNG300 as they are no longer issued and nor are they even manufactured and the ones that are left on the network will be replaced with a Superhub if and when they go faulty, plus the VMNG300 can only run 4 downstream channels unlike the Superhub which can run 8 downstream channels, so sooner rather than later you will need a Superhub to replace your defunct VMNG300.

I voted for Modem Mode as it gives everyone the ability to use the Superhub with their chosen router of choice.

timberheadverde · 17-12-2011, 18:32

Purely voted super hub because it hasnt given me much hastle and the fact it requires 1 plug and less wires than a modem and router is also a bonus, not to mention its looks. Although it could have been so much better. Waiting on the Super Duper hub now

General Maximus · 17-12-2011, 18:32

when i win the euromillions I am going to have a vmng300 made with 8 downstream channels and give it to everyone for free

jb66 · 17-12-2011, 18:35

Wouldn't want a superhub in my house. ...

Peter_ · 17-12-2011, 19:27

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Originally Posted by General Maximus

when i win the euromillions I am going to have a vmng300 made with 8 downstream channels and give it to everyone for free

They would make nice paperweights.

Quite happy with my Superhub as it does exactly what I need without the need to replace it in the short term.

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Originally Posted by jb66

Wouldn't want a superhub in my house. ...

Sooner rather than later you will have no choice unless they bring out a replacement which will probably still be a hub, remember 8 downstreams are rolling out and therfore your VMNG300 is not futureproof.

denphone · 17-12-2011, 19:30

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Originally Posted by jb66

Wouldn't want a superhub in my house. ...

Whys that as l have never encountered too many problems with it.

HD Boy · 17-12-2011, 20:01

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Originally Posted by denphone

Whys that as l have never encountered too many problems with it.

Same here. I have had it for 5 months.

Peter_ · 17-12-2011, 20:01

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Originally Posted by denphone

Whys that as l have never encountered too many problems with it.

Never had a problem in 10 months in either standard mode or modem mode it has just sat their and done its job without any issues.

Nopanic · 17-12-2011, 20:02

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Originally Posted by General Maximus

when i win the euromillions I am going to have a vmng300 made with 8 downstream channels and give it to everyone for free

I'll provision them for you

Peter_ · 17-12-2011, 20:04

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Originally Posted by Nopanic

I'll provision them for you

I hate to but

Daveoc64 · 17-12-2011, 20:10

Since R30 I have to say that the Superhub is one of the most stable routers I've used.

BUT the wireless signal is terrible.

I have bought a wireless access point to get around that though.

It would also be nice to see some further firmware improvements. It's missing a lot of features that other routers have and I'm sure they could make some performance improvements.

jb66 · 17-12-2011, 20:17

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Originally Posted by denphone

Whys that as l have never encountered too many problems with it.

I tried 4 in total and they all constantly rebooted In my house, never again, pulledmy hair out untill i installed my vmng300. 4downstream is fine for me, it's virgins problem not mine how they will load balance my torrents

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Originally Posted by Daveoc64

Since R30 I have to say that the Superhub is one of the most stable routers I've used.

BUT the wireless signal is terrible.

I have bought a wireless access point to get around that though.

It would also be nice to see some further firmware improvements. It's missing a lot of features that other routers have and I'm sure they could make some performance improvements.

My dlink615 budget router has been rock solid, wipes the floor with te hubs

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Originally Posted by Masque

They would make nice paperweights.

Quite happy with my Superhub as it does exactly what I need without the need to replace it in the short term.

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Sooner rather than later you will have no choice unless they bring out a replacement which will probably still be a hub, remember 8 downstreams are rolling out and therfore your VMNG300 is not futureproof.

Never!!!!