Youtube an absolute joke

[bigdavep]

As per title. Done speedtests and they come out decent but youtube for past couple of weeks is completely unusable. Dunno whether its a routing issue or what but everyone else i speak to on other isp's seems to be doing ok. Anyone any ideas???

Dave

[Radeon]

I have the same issue on 50mb as well as my current 100mb. I live in the Neath area and I get my full speed 99% of the time day or night on pretty much most websites.

But when it comes to YouTube it's 50/50 whether I get good speeds or not. Some videos at 1080 will load instantly at 5-6MB/s and some 240 or 360 videos barley load at 90-100KB/s at then buffer and play, buffer and play. It's a bloody pain .

[Bman]

My friend was having the same problem yesterday evening, i logged into my youtube channel at his house, tried to play a video in fullscreen which switched it to 720p and it played about 5 seconds before buffering about 10 seconds, this continued until we dropped it to 480p, and even then it still buffered occasionally. To rule out any wireless problems he moved the router and connected via cable, speedtest was about 18mb.

I don't use virgin media any more so i can't do another test here, but he tells me it's been the same for months and most other streaming video sites run fine for him.

[Zee]

Exactly the same issue here, and at my friends house too. Some people have complained on the VM boards too. i have a 30Mb connection and even on some 240p videos, it begins to buffer. On the other hand i also have a Sky Broadband connection and am able to play 1080p movies flawlessly, defo a problem on the VM network, and appears to happen in the late afternoons and evening.

[zekeisaszekedoes]

Tell me... are all of you using a superhub?

[Dush]

I've had the same issue on my 30mbit connection the last couple of nights. I've got a regular modem. The only thing that fixed it was going down to 240p. I'm not sure if they store different resolutions on different servers as it buffers the entire video very quickly on 240p.

[Synthetic]

Same on 50Meg, i can actually load the same video, at the same time, faster on my parents 6meg connection, defintely a youtube issue

[Jayster]

Its been very slow at peak time for me over the last week or so and them is fine off peak.

Originally Posted by zekeisaszekedoes

Tell me... are all of you using a superhub?

I have the VMNG300 on 50Mbit friends are also having problems with the superhub on 50Mbit.

[Zee]

its perfectly fine now. but come around 5pm onwards till about 12am it'll lag constantly and become almost unusable.

It cant be a YouTube issue because as i said at the same time on the same video, it'll load flawlessly on my "3" mobile connection from my phone with 1 bar and my sky broadband connection, but switch to Virgin 30Mb and face this issue.

[Radeon]

Originally Posted by zekeisaszekedoes

Tell me... are all of you using a superhub?

Had the issue on the VMNG300 modem (50mb service) and my current superhub (100mb) as well as my previous 10mb and 20mb when they were both top of the range speeds (Ambit 100 silver modem and Virgin 250 blue one)

When is comes to speed and reliability I have no issues with any website, but YouTube videos are always completely random whether or not they will load quickly. I can always upload videos though at full speed, just streaming is the problem.

I never have issues on my grandfathers 8mb Sky broadband when loading 1080p, but my 100mb sometimes can't even load 240p, damn you Virgin

At other times 1080p videos will download at between 3 and 8MB/s.

[Jayster]

And it starts again,

Here is a trace route when youtube streaming speeds are slow.
1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms Router [192.168.1.1]
2 9 ms 7 ms 7 ms cpc1-bele8-2-0-gw.2-1.cable.virginmedia.com [82.16.68.1]
3 9 ms 7 ms 11 ms belf-core-1a-ae2-533.network.virginmedia.net [213.105.207.97]
4 39 ms 39 ms 38 ms leed-bb-1a-ae3-0.network.virginmedia.net [212.43.163.201]
5 17 ms 19 ms 15 ms manc-bb-1b-as3-0.network.virginmedia.net [213.105.175.142]
6 22 ms 23 ms 23 ms tele-ic-3-ae0-0.network.virginmedia.net [212.43.163.70]
7 64 ms 73 ms 73 ms 138-14-250-212.static.virginmedia.com [212.250.14.138]
8 28 ms 46 ms 22 ms 209.85.255.175
9 25 ms 23 ms 23 ms 209.85.251.62
10 32 ms 24 ms 26 ms 74.125.230.103

I will get one later tonight or tomorrow when youtube is back to normal speeds.

[Jayster]

Here is it off peak
Tracing route to youtube.com [74.125.230.108]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms Router [192.168.1.1]
2 9 ms 7 ms 7 ms cpc1-bele8-2-0-gw.2-1.cable.virginmedia.com [82.16.68.1]
3 7 ms 7 ms 7 ms belf-core-1a-ae2-532.network.virginmedia.net [213.105.207.93]
4 14 ms 15 ms 16 ms leed-bb-1a-ae3-0.network.virginmedia.net [212.43.163.201]
5 70 ms 14 ms 15 ms manc-bb-1b-as3-0.network.virginmedia.net [213.105.175.142]
6 22 ms 19 ms 20 ms tele-ic-3-ae0-0.network.virginmedia.net [212.43.163.70]
7 29 ms 24 ms 22 ms 138-14-250-212.static.virginmedia.com [212.250.14.138]
8 23 ms 23 ms 24 ms 209.85.255.175
9 36 ms 25 ms 25 ms 209.85.251.62
10 24 ms 23 ms 23 ms 74.125.230.108

Cant seem to edit that last post.

[jtaylor06]

Take a look at the following.
http://www.youtube.com/my_speed

It also shows the ISP/Network speed over time on YouTube.

Click show test video, and then change the quality to 480p.
Let us know what speed you're getting (shown next to HTTP) at the first 10 seconds of the video. If the video has fully buffered it will show 0 since nothing else will be streamed.

Once done in 480p, give 720p a shot. If you are on a Netbook or low-end computer not capable on 720p please exclude this.

480p, getting around 28000-38000 kbps
720p, getting around 17000-30000 kbps

30Mb, using Superhub with "Very Good" signal strength (on other side of house).

Your average video speed at this location from 27 Jun 2011 to 26 Jul 2011 was 14.67 Mbps.

[AdamD]

I've had the same issues with youtube for as long as I can remember, on the 50mb (vnmg modem thing) and now with 100mb and the superhub.

The test video works fine, but most other videos do not, they either don't stream properly (constant buffering) or load fine.

It's very hit and miss, but mostly miss.

If I make the mistake of trying to fast forward, say, by clicking a minute into a video, it'll just sit there with the spinning wheel, while it tries to load, 30 seconds or more can pass by before it kicks in again, or not at all.

[Jayster]

Originally Posted by jtaylor06

Take a look at the following.
http://www.youtube.com/my_speed

It also shows the ISP/Network speed over time on YouTube.

Click show test video, and then change the quality to 480p.
Let us know what speed you're getting (shown next to HTTP) at the first 10 seconds of the video. If the video has fully buffered it will show 0 since nothing else will be streamed.

Once done in 480p, give 720p a shot. If you are on a Netbook or low-end computer not capable on 720p please exclude this.

480p, getting around 28000-38000 kbps
720p, getting around 17000-30000 kbps

30Mb, using Superhub with "Very Good" signal strength (on other side of house).

At this time I get a very steady 50000kbps through all qualities and youtube in general at this time is great everything streams with no problems but when it hits evening through to about midnight speeds seem to hit a brick wall all of a sudden where I can only get about 500kbps and have to wait for pretty much every video to buffer.

I still personally think its congestion on Virgins network.