TiVo Â£3.00 Tivo Charge

muppetman11 · 21-03-2011, 11:10

Simple question really.

BenJSmyth · 21-03-2011, 12:28

The top two options I agree with! An extra Â£3 for the extra functionality is well worth the money. However, my subs are high enough so if there was ever the chance of it being dropped or incorporated into a new VIP Tivo package I would be even happier. Not a game changer in my opinion though. A pint in my local pub costs more than Â£3!

Cozzy · 21-03-2011, 12:42

BUT ... surely it depends on whether over the long run the fee stays the same or if VM see it as a way to increase revenue

IF VM plan on keeping it as is or even removing the charge over time then i dont see any problems but if VM see the cash signs then the fee could rise steadily over time.

Cindy Rose stated its a premium product at lauch and thats why there is a charge .. fair enough .. but she goes on to say they will adjust it dependant on how they interpret the customer is willing to stump up extra charges.

My views are known ... i believe VM will use the charge and increase it over time year on year to increase their turnover and keep investors happy ... but will be extremely happy if i end up wrong but cant see VM passing up opportunity to make money

So i vote option two

muppetman11 · 21-03-2011, 12:46

Cozzy has a point 3.00 could easily become 5.00 over time and subs for digital TV are high enough on all platforms.

RobboEdin · 21-03-2011, 12:58

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Originally Posted by muppetman11

Cozzy has a point 3.00 could easily become 5.00 over time and subs for digital TV are high enough on all platforms.

He may have a point but the possibility of an increase in the charge should not be taken into account when deciding how to vote.

There is also a possibility that the charge may be removed in the future. That is, after all, what happened to the V+ charge.

Joedm45 · 21-03-2011, 13:00

My opinion is that the Â£3 fee is like a licensing fee to use the TiVo name as well as the EPG data supply. If this is the case then this cost must be fixed in a long term contract between TiVo and VM which of course neither party will disclose.

It would be pretty naive to think that this will not increase and I fully expect it to until they see sub numbers dropping in future.

Like with any business, they need to make money and having a separate line on the bill gives another opportunity for price rises.

muppetman11 · 21-03-2011, 13:08

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Originally Posted by Joedm45

My opinion is that the Â£3 fee is like a licensing fee to use the TiVo name as well as the EPG data supply. If this is the case then this cost must be fixed in a long term contract between TiVo and VM which of course neither party will disclose.

It would be pretty naive to think that this will not increase and I fully expect it to until they see sub numbers dropping in future.

Like with any business, they need to make money and having a separate line on the bill gives another opportunity for price rises.

It's interesting to note that Comcast TIVO service is also an additional $2.95 or it was when I last looked and there service isn't as advanced as VM.

passingbat · 21-03-2011, 13:13

I think there should be another option. Something like, "I'm prepared to pay it to get tivo functionality"".

I think that has a distinctly different meaning to your first option, and is my position.

ntl.wotcha · 21-03-2011, 14:14

As I see it I've forked out Â£149 to cover the PVR hardware, 3 tuners, 1TB etc.

So my Â£3 sub covers the extra is really covering the enhanced EPG data. If VM can iron out most of the issues in the EPG data then I am happy. If I continue to find issues with it, then I'd consider pushing back on the Â£3 sub.

All TiVos fancy features are dependent on the EPG data being "near 100%". It's sod all use having wishlists etc if it still doesn't record because the data is bad.

Peter_ · 21-03-2011, 15:16

It is quite simple really, do you want a TiVo and its functionality?

If yes then Â£3 per month is a small sum to pay.

If no why are you still reading this post.

passingbat · 21-03-2011, 15:32

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Originally Posted by Masque

It is quite simple really, do you want a TiVo and its functionality?

If yes then Â£3 per month is a small sum to pay.

If no why are you still reading this post.

People are reading this because, last time I checked, thi was a a discussion forum and the 3 pound charge is a valid discussion point.

Not everyone has a 'take it or leave it' attitude to this. It's important that people at VM are aware of peoples feelings about the 3 pounds charge, and forums are a good way for this to be fed back.

Peter_ · 21-03-2011, 15:37

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Originally Posted by passingbat

People are reading this because, last time I checked, thi was a a discussion forum and the 3 pound charge is a valid discussion point.

Not everyone has a 'take it or leave it' attitude to this. It's important that people at VM are aware of peoples feelings about the 3 pounds charge, and forums are a good way for this to be fed back.

You are not going to get that functionality elsewhere for Â£3 per month and no one else will be supplying a TiVo box any time soon so it is either pay and receive the service or not get it for the sake of Â£3.

The are over 100,000 people who have registered an interest and the are very few on here or even other forum complaining about the charge so it is unlikely to make any difference.

passingbat · 21-03-2011, 15:40

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Originally Posted by Masque

You are not going to get that functionality elsewhere for Â£3 per month and no one else will be supplying a TiVo box any time soon so it is either pay and receive the service or not get it for the sake of Â£3.

The are over 100,000 people who have registered an interest and the are very few on here or even other forum complaining about the charge so it is unlikely to make any difference.

So what? Does that mean it shouldn't be discussed?

Peter_ · 21-03-2011, 15:44

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Originally Posted by passingbat

So what? Does that mean it shouldn't be discussed?

Not in the slightest, all I am pointing out what you get for less than 75p per week which is quite a lot, I expect most people would spend more than that in a week on tea or coffee in work, and in that context it is not a lot to pay.

mersey70 · 21-03-2011, 15:45

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Originally Posted by Masque

You are not going to get that functionality elsewhere for Â£3 per month and no one else will be supplying a TiVo box any time soon so it is either pay and receive the service or not get it for the sake of Â£3.

The are over 100,000 people who have registered an interest and the are very few on here or even other forum complaining about the charge so it is unlikely to make any difference.

Registering an interest and actually taking out a product are two quite different things, let's give it a year or so and see how things pan out.

I don't believe and never have that an average joe subscriber will pay for such functionality as I personally doubt most even need it. That is possibly borne out by the quite astonishing slump in Tivo's subscriber/active customer numbers worldwide even in markets where it has no ongoing subscription, a 'basic' PVR seem to suffice.

We'll see though, I genuinely hope i'm wrong for competition's sake.