Catholic Church 'Covered Up' Child Sex Abuse

Reedy · 27-11-2009, 01:09

Apparently the tallies almost 400 children and expected to rise significantly as the investigation continues! Sadly not all will face justice.

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/5/20091126/...u-3fd0ae9.html

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The four archbishops, obsessed with secrecy and avoiding scandal, protected abusers and reputations at all costs.

The four - John Charles McQuaid who died in 1973, Dermot Ryan who died in 1984, Kevin McNamara who died in 1987, and retired Cardinal Desmond Connell - did not hand over information on abusers.

Even when Cardinal Connell gave 17 names to officers in 1995, the Commission later found there were 28 priests with allegations against them at that time.

27-11-2009, 04:49

It's been going on for years, the Catholic faith is well known for assaults on children including sexual assaults.

**Maggy** · 27-11-2009, 09:26

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Originally Posted by Nidge

It's been going on for years, the Catholic faith is well known for assaults on children including sexual assaults.

Hang on I think you are accusing every member of the catholic church there.I'm sure you didn't mean to.

After all it was a few Catholic priests who were responsible of this disgusting behaviour and the hierarchy of the Irish catholic community(and possibly )the Vatican who protected them who deserve to be vilified, not the ordinary people of the Catholic faith.

Peter_ · 27-11-2009, 09:35

It is no surprise that the Catholic church once again covered up abuse by the clergy and just moved them into another parish where they were able to carry on with their abuse on fresh victims.

This kind of thing has to all intents and purposes has been condoned by the Vatican by the simple fact that nothing was ever done to prevent this happening.

LondonRoad · 27-11-2009, 09:43

Those who protect the paedophiles are every bit as guilty of any further abuse as the abusers themselves.

**Maggy** · 27-11-2009, 09:50

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Originally Posted by Moldova

It is no surprise that the Catholic church once again covered up abuse by the clergy and just moved them into another parish where they were able to carry on with their abuse on fresh victims.

This kind of thing has to all intents and purposes has been condoned by the Vatican by the simple fact that nothing was ever done to prevent this happening.

In fact they ignored the inquiry.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/8382010.stm

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The inquiry into sex abuse by Catholic priests in Ireland has disclosed that the Vatican ignored formal requests for information.
The inquiry asked for details of reports on abuse sent to the Vatican by the Dublin archdiocese in 2006.
The Vatican did not reply but told the Irish Foreign Affairs department the request "had not gone through appropriate diplomatic channels".

Peter_ · 27-11-2009, 09:53

No surprise that it was ignored because they always bury their heads in the sand when abuse issues come to light.

Reedy · 27-11-2009, 12:22

I wonder how many of the Catholic clergy are paedophiles? They're in the news weekly with new reported cases, I'm guessing it had little to do with God and they were using it as a front to gain access to children knowing they have the protection of the church and pretty much immune to justice. A disgusting abuse of power and trust!

All involved in the cover-ups and should face justice as an accessory rather than just handing out hundreds of millions of pounds in compensation, which incidentally was probably donated by the church members, so in a sick sense they're really funding it.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/news...e-victims.html

27-11-2009, 12:28

Time the Vow of Chastity was ebolished after it was never placed because of the bible anyway but to stop preists breeding and passing on the wealth. Also the fact that married ex CoE preists are allowed to have families etc has to take the pee somewhat.

Peter_ · 27-11-2009, 12:37

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Originally Posted by zing

Time the Vow of Chastity was ebolished after it was never placed because of the bible anyway but to stop preists breeding and passing on the wealth. Also the fact that married ex CoE preists are allowed to have families etc has to take the pee somewhat.

In some places the priest was there to help if the husband was to put it mildly a bit jaffa and then some of the younger parishioners tended to have a look of the local priest.

Still probably happening now with many priests becoming secret fathers.

nomadking · 27-11-2009, 13:37

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Originally Posted by zing

Time the Vow of Chastity was ebolished after it was never placed because of the bible anyway but to stop preists breeding and passing on the wealth. Also the fact that married ex CoE preists are allowed to have families etc has to take the pee somewhat.

They know about the Vow of Chastity long before they enter the priesthood. I'm not sure how an inability to have relationships with, or a lack of desire for women translates into sexual attacks on young boys.

At the very least, they should not be allowed to have relationships with parishioners, as it is a similar situation to a Doctor-Patient relationship, they know their secrets and vulnerabilities.

SMG · 27-11-2009, 14:22

Again its a case of a few rotten apples contaminating the rest. Every "Straight" priest has to live down these abusers.

papa smurf · 27-11-2009, 18:15

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Originally Posted by Reedy

I wonder how many of the Catholic clergy are paedophiles? They're in the news weekly with new reported cases, I'm guessing it had little to do with God and they were using it as a front to gain access to children knowing they have the protection of the church and pretty much immune to justice. A disgusting abuse of power and trust!

All involved in the cover-ups and should face justice as an accessory rather than just handing out hundreds of millions of pounds in compensation, which incidentally was probably donated by the church members, so in a sick sense they're really funding it.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/news...e-victims.html

i have oft wondered myself about this ie is this church an easy place for pedophile rings to exist given that pedophilia is covered up at all levels just to save face .

27-11-2009, 19:37

Well whatever the truth is there seems to be a problem within the catholic church in identifying these people and when identified dealing with them properly. While this is about ireland lets not forget this is not the first instance of this it has happened in the US and other places. I have no views on the vow of chasity and given anyone who enters into the priesthood knows about it i don't think it is fair to use that as a reason why some go into abusing young children. What needs to happen is for the catholic church to come completely clean about all this admit any wrongs, put right whatever is failing on their end and start again. Whatever they do no innocent child should have to suffer at the hands of someone who is looked upto and trusted with their deepest secrets as priests are.

Mr Angry · 28-11-2009, 00:58

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Originally Posted by papa smurf

i have oft wondered myself about this ie is this church an easy place for pedophile rings to exist given that pedophilia is covered up at all levels just to save face .

It used to be, but recently God's rotweiller decided he was ashamed of the past behaviour of certain priests (who had been caught) and he was determined to make things a bit more difficult for kiddie fiddlers to either join his gang or for exsting deviants to perpetrate their acts.

He was, of course, talking Barlocks.

If a nation can be repulsed at the shortcomings of Harringay Council in their complicity / ineptitude in the abuse and murder of "baby P" to the extent that their chief executive can be summarily sacked then how come nobody is calling for the Pope to be sacked?