Domestic violence on the school curriculum?

[Osem]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8376943.stm

I have no problem with getting across the message that domestic violence is unacceptable but I wonder just why we have yet another inititaive which entirely overlooks domestic violence against men? There's little doubt that men suffer less than women and are less likely to report violence against them, but whatever the proportion of males there are that fall into the category of being abused by their partners, why are their problems being overlooked and in what way would bringing their plight into the scope of the discussion compromise the safety or welfare of the women who also suffer?

Harriet Harman said:

...tackling violence against women and girls was "one of the government's top priorities"...."...We have to work to change attitudes in order to eliminate violence against women and girls and to make it clear beyond doubt that any form of violence against women is unacceptable,"

Presumably the needs of the other half of the population aren't her or her useless government's concern then because I've yet to hear any of them acknowledge that the problem exists at all and all the available resources seem to be directed at women's refuges etc.....

Harperson on her hobbyhorse again.

Hold your breath and let it pass. She's like a particularly awful fart, not pleasant to be around, but will be carried away on the wind soon enough.

[Pierre]

Bad, bad idea.

Let's teach kids that are growing up in happy home that daddy has the capability of kicking mummys head in, and vice versa.

[Russ]

Originally Posted by Osem

There's little doubt that men suffer less than women and are less likely to report violence against them,

There was a recent study that suggested that male victims of domestic abuse could equal that of females, but due to the lower likelihood of it getting reported the actual figures aren't known. It also suggested that while women were more likely to be victims of physical abuse, males were more likely to receive emotional abuse.

[Osem]

There are huge and very dangerous double standards at work here and I wonder what the real agenda of these people is. When it comes to women's issues (dometic violence, rape, etc.) the presumption always seems to be that there is under-reporting and the problem is even worse than the official figures show and therefore all the more reason for more action, resources etc to tackle it. When it comes to men's issues, however, the presumption always seems to be that the official numbers reported are small and that the problem is therefore trivial. Under-reporting isn't considered let alone allowed for in any provision of services.

[Russ]

A different perspective from the Beeb http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8377836.stm

[LondonRoad]

Originally Posted by Chris

Harperson on her hobbyhorse again.

Hold your breath and let it pass. She's like a particularly awful fart, not pleasant to be around, but will be carried away on the wind soon enough.

I've just emailed Jack Dromey to see if he can knock her into shape....a couple of back handers should do it.

[webcrawler2050]

Could this be deemed as "sexiest" towards a bloke? I find it highly offensive

[punky]

I'm glad its not just me harping on about this for a change.

Violence against men is around 1 in 3 depending on statistics. As with demoestic violence against women the true figure is much higher. When news articles like this come out people wonder why men aren't reporting domestic violence against them? Its already hard enough to get men to report abuse from people who are considered 'weaker' than they are.

It does remind me of the Family Guy episode where Brian goes to college.

Speaker: Ladies, look to your left. Now look to your right. Chances are both these men will rape you.

It certainly echos the advice openly floating around my university when I went that basically all men are would-be rapists who'll eventually get rape a woman.

[Flyboy]

Originally Posted by webcrawler2050

Could this be deemed as "sexiest" towards a bloke? I find it highly offensive

I don't think domestic violence could ever be described as being "sexy."

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But that aside, I can't understand the objection to teaching all children that all violence, especially that which is committed in the home, is a bad thing. Surely the earlier this is taught the better.

[webcrawler2050]

I'd rather not my child be taught about this yet. I dont like the idea of her seeing Daddy havign the ability to kick mummys head in. When mummy has the same possibility. I dunno, it's swings and roundabouts in my mind. Seems, sexiest towards a bloke.

[Saaf_laandon_mo]

Schools are failing to teach kids reading, writing and mathematics. So rather than improve on those areas they've decided to teach something else poorly too.

[Flyboy]

Originally Posted by webcrawler2050

I'd rather not my child be taught about this yet. I dont like the idea of her seeing Daddy havign the ability to kick mummys head in. When mummy has the same possibility. I dunno, it's swings and roundabouts in my mind. Seems, sexiest towards a bloke.

Okay...where does it say that is what they are going to teach children?

As I said before, there is nothing "sexy" about it at all. I think you mean "sexist."

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Originally Posted by Saaf_laandon_mo

Schools are failing to teach kids reading, writing and mathematics. So rather than improve on those areas they've decided to teach something else poorly too.

They are not "failing" to teach them anything. There is a whole raft of reasons why children can not read or write, it is not always the school's fault. To teach children to be better citizens is just as important as teaching the three "R"s

[Russ]

Originally Posted by Flyboy

Okay...where does it say that is what they are going to teach children?

If you listen to Harman, she makes it sound like women are the only victims of domestic abuse. Her view is a very destructive one.

[Flyboy]

I think that is your own paranoia. Does she actually say that?