at my wits end please help

dafry · 05-04-2007, 16:56

i have recently upgraded to 10 meg with virgin. my speedtest shows me running at 9600 down 470 up. i have 2 360's which i run through a linksysis wrt300n router. whenever i try to host agame of rainbow 6 anymore than 5 people and it lags for eveyone else, i suffer none, i have done portforwadring on the router, tried unplugging one of the 360's, and running nothing but one through the router and still get the same thing, i have posted in xbox forums, no help, emailed microsoft direct, no help again, and can now only think this must be a virgin problem.? i have friends who are running at less on both down and up, and they can host no problem. any help on this would be really appreciated.
thank you.

punky · 05-04-2007, 17:04

to the site.

Tried removng the router entirely?

Also, where are you friends situated... In this country, or round the world? On Virgin as well or other ISPs? If so, which ones?

dafry · 05-04-2007, 17:11

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Originally Posted by Gavin

to the site.

Tried removng the router entirely?

Also, where are you friends situated... In this country, or round the world? On Virgin as well or other ISPs? If so, which ones?

wow that was quick thank you.
i'm going to try by passing the router at the weekend, the thing is i only got the router this week, i was using a di514 before that and had exactly the same problem .
most of my friends are in this country , they arent on virgin, not sure which. one of them is in canada and he has the same router, he has 700 upload and last night was hosting a room of fourteen of us no problem

punky · 05-04-2007, 17:24

Was you saying the problems started when you upgraded to 10 meg?

Have you tried different times a day? Sometimes congestion at peak times can cause problems.

I don't know much about Xbox Live, but in-game can you monitor pings at all?

dafry · 05-04-2007, 17:32

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Originally Posted by Gavin

Was you saying the problems started when you upgraded to 10 meg?

Have you tried different times a day? Sometimes congestion at peak times can cause problems.

I don't know much about Xbox Live, but in-game can you monitor pings at all?

we were only running at 2 meg (upload 200)before so never really bothered with tryin before

tried lots of different times

on the game that we are playin you have red, yellow or green pings ours are allways green, so there should be no problem.

confusing isnt it, i would have thought that with the increase in size there would be no problem.

punky · 05-04-2007, 17:35

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Originally Posted by dafry

confusing isnt it, i would have thought that with the increase in size there would be no problem.

The trouble is though, when you go upto 10mb, you are normally with the group of users who, putting it politely, like to make the most of out of their connection. So upgrading to 10mb can cause problems with congestion, etc.

dafry · 05-04-2007, 17:39

oh dear, i think trying directly through the mode will see if it is avirgin problem, if it does cure it do you know of any other way to get 2 360's running at the same time as the modem has only one input?

awibble · 05-04-2007, 17:45

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Originally Posted by dafry

oh dear, i think trying directly through the mode will see if it is avirgin problem, if it does cure it do you know of any other way to get 2 360's running at the same time as the modem has only one input?

Sure, just grab a Switch or a Hub... Pcworld will sort you out in minuites to be honest.

Or blow another ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£100 on the wireless adaptors and get a wireless router.

dafry · 05-04-2007, 19:16

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Originally Posted by awibble

Sure, just grab a Switch or a Hub... Pcworld will sort you out in minuites to be honest.

Or blow another ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£100 on the wireless adaptors and get a wireless router.

would a switch or hub enable two 360's to connect to live and play at the same time?

Chris Davo · 05-04-2007, 19:22

Yes it would. Ive always found online gaming to be very temperamental, i would never dream of having two consoles running from the same connection.

MovedGoalPosts · 05-04-2007, 20:13

How can a switch / hub allow two devices to connect to Xbox Live

They still have to share the internet (broadband) connection. Unless you are rich enough to have two internet services to your property, the cable modem (or ADSL) needs a router to share the connection. This can be wired only or a wireless router (which normally includes wired ports). OK if your router doesn't have enough LAN ports to it you'd add a switch (or hub) to extend it, but if you are already having poor connection issues extending your network can only compound your go slow by adding even more traffic to it.

dafry · 07-04-2007, 13:29

qiuck update, i have just had an engineer out as our v+ box was playing up, apparently we had a weak signal which he has sorted. hopefully this my sort out the 360 problem also. i will be trying the direct thru to modem when i get in tonite. fingers crossed. also does anyone know of a reliable, and acurate speed test i have done speedtest.net or com cant remeber off hand, and the engineer said that our upload speed shouldnt be as good as it is in our area!

dafry · 08-04-2007, 10:04

how happy am i, i plugged 1 360 thru the modem directly, and still it lagged out, so thanks virgin for giving me half an internet service

. i'll wait with baited breath to see if the 20 meg is any better. does anybody know how to find out the times for each area? when i look on their site it doesnt work.

Paul K · 08-04-2007, 10:09

So you are blaming VM for your lag when playing online? Think your problems are more widespread than that as lag affects a lot of people on different ISPs. Just because your friends can host it doesn't mean that at certain times of day they do not suffer any lag. Hosting 5 people on a limited upload bandwidth will cause issues fullstop. Is anything else running on the network while you are connecting for a game and have you tried a hardware reset on the router to make sure no settings are getting in the way that shouldn't be there. Odds are it is just a congestion problem in your area and that you have people in your geographical neighbourhood that like to P2P a lot.

Pimmo2000 · 09-04-2007, 12:33

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Originally Posted by Chris Davo

Yes it would. Ive always found online gaming to be very temperamental, i would never dream of having two consoles running from the same connection.

No it wouldn't, not at the same time, only a router can do this. A hub doesn't contain a DHCP server so it couldn't give out local addresses and the cable modem can only support one connection per customer.