Attention-All NTL Staff.

Womble · 19-01-2005, 20:16

With recent goings-on within the company it has lead me to consider Unions again. I am not a leftie, flag waving, tools down brothers type

, but I am a working class socialist (albeit a right wing one!)
And I don't believe BECTU represent us properly. They where recently at a meeting (as were the ACF) where the working hours of network engineers were changed. There was little or no consultation, or consideration to the affect they may have had on employees.

I have been in a union before (EEPTU), and they did very little to help the workers in recent years. But I have just joined the CWU, If we can get enough members, ntl will have to recognise them. The CWU have just got Telewest to recognise them see..............

http://www.cwu.org/news.asp?step=3&NID=610

Chris W · 19-01-2005, 20:17

i'm a manpower munkeh! but lots of us have joined anyway

Escapee · 19-01-2005, 20:36

I remember when ntl took over cwc and the CWU representatives were apparently waiting outside ntl buildings to sign people up. ntl quickly reacted and announced a partnership with a tame union that would sing their tune.

I was always against unions and their lefty views, and refused to join the one at the cable company I worked for before ntl. When we were bought out by CableTel/ntl we were quietly warned by one of the directors what the ntl managemnt were like, and advised we would be better off keeping our union payments up to date.

I joined after that tip-off and thought even though ntl wouldn't recognise the union they would be very helpfull for any problems with legal representation especially if it was through a work accident etc. I still keep up my payments, and none of the people in the company I currently work with are aware that I am in a union, but one day you never know it may be a good insurance policy.

Especially with a company like ntl

Andy E · 19-01-2005, 21:25

BECTU are as much use as a chocolate fireguard.

Andy E
ntl pirate

Womble · 19-01-2005, 21:59

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Originally Posted by Andy E

BECTU are as much use as a chocolate fireguard.

Andy E
ntl pirate

Then join up mate

United we stand, divided we fall!

alex250 · 19-01-2005, 22:04

Whats the monthly cost of the union if you don't mind me asking

HD462 · 19-01-2005, 23:20

Any union is only as strong as it's members....united we stand, divided we fall

Chrysalis · 20-01-2005, 02:10

I would reccomend joining a union, NTL is currently very unstable and no job look's safe.

Escapee · 20-01-2005, 08:18

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Originally Posted by alex250

Whats the monthly cost of the union if you don't mind me asking

I think the one I'm in is about ÃƒÆ’Ã†â€™ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…Â¡ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£8.30 a month paid by DD.

I just look on it as an insurance policy!

orangebird · 20-01-2005, 09:22

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Originally Posted by Chrysalis

I would reccomend joining a union, NTL is currently very unstable and no job look's safe.

Mine is - so is my entire depts....

Womble · 20-01-2005, 09:32

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Originally Posted by HD462

Any union is only as strong as it's members....united we stand, divided we fall

And Stand together we must! They must not be allowed to run rough-shod over us

Mods- any chance this could be a sticky for a while??

Derek · 20-01-2005, 09:34

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Originally Posted by Chrysalis

I would reccomend joining a union, NTL is currently very unstable and no job look's safe.

I suppose we could all re-train as Gas engineers

20-01-2005, 09:47

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Originally Posted by Chrysalis

I would reccomend joining a union, NTL is currently very unstable and no job look's safe.

in this day and age there is no such thing as a safe job. What can a union do when a company wants to make people redundant or outsource job?? NOTHING. Stop wasting your money

Pierre · 20-01-2005, 09:53

Sorry but in my opinion, Unions are have no power nowadays especially in a company like ntl.

Womble · 20-01-2005, 10:55

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Originally Posted by Pierre

Sorry but in my opinion, Unions are have no power nowadays especially in a company like ntl.

I have to agree, the power of the Unions is nowhere near to what it was. But I believe thats not a bad thing remember the 1970's!
BUT, there are certain things ntl do, that are not strictly legal or by the book.
A Union can't prevent redundancies, but they can stop matixes being massaged to get rid of people they don't like as opposed to non-productive staff/jobs for the boys

I don't think a Union is the "be all and end all" but, they serve a purpose, legal advice and representaion being two things they can help with.