Iran is next ?

kronas · 16-01-2005, 23:29

the new yorker magazine has reported information which it believes is true in that US forces have been infiltrating Iran since last summer to specify targets of nuclear and chemical dumps within the country.

seymour hersh who writes for the newspaper and previosuly uncovered the human rights abuses at abu ghraib states that missions have taken place with 'commando' operations within Iran.

pakistan is helping the US as the country has had dealings with the Iranian scientists in finding the sources of any nuclear or biological technology.

source: yahoo news

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...a_newyorker_dc

certainly food for thought.

AndrewJ · 16-01-2005, 23:39

Well I guess it could be worse, but my concern right now is N Korea, they are unstable, makes me wonder about there cheap cars, what the money is funding over there. Certainly aint going on the people

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kronas · 16-01-2005, 23:41

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Originally Posted by AndrewJames

Well I guess it could be worse, but my concern right now is N Korea, they are unstable, makes me wonder about there cheap cars, what the money is funding over there. Certainly aint going on the people

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i find it quite amsuing that the US is tip toeing around over the north korean situation.

they would not dare go in all guns blazing.

nffc · 16-01-2005, 23:46

I hate the way the US think it's their responsibility to "sort out" states that in their opinion are a "problem".

It really galls because if they minded their own business more they would be less of a target to terrorists.

And as Blair seems willing to pander to the wishes of the US- it makes us a target as well.

kronas · 16-01-2005, 23:47

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Originally Posted by nffc

I hate the way the US think it's their responsibility to "sort out" states that in their opinion are a "problem".

It really galls because if they minded their own business more they would be less of a target to terrorists.

And as Blair seems willing to pander to the wishes of the US- it makes us a target as well.

cant put it better myself

AndrewJ · 16-01-2005, 23:50

I agree I just dont trust the Tories at all not after the last time they was in power, they caused some ups and some major downs.

As for America well in some ways they are right, but in others wrong, but as with any campaign it takes time to get fixed out.

Sadly I am for America To clean this world. As if they didnt?? who would.

punky · 17-01-2005, 00:21

Iran next? I hope so.

If you imagine the world is like a school playground, with the US as the big kid, NK is the smaller kid that secretly goes round telling everyone that he could have the big kid, but never does. I don't think NK would attack anyway, especially the US. It would rather just continually bitch about the US instead. Iran though probably would though. I seem to remember some 'stray' munitions found its way across the border into Iraq

Plus the fact that a lot of Iranians, especially the younger set, resent the opressive theocracy they have, and North Koreans are pretty happy being in there totally delusion/brainwashed mind set.

The trouble is, 3rd Islamic country in a row? Will breed hatred even with the people that dislike Iran. Going after Iran probably isn't the smartest move right now, but in in a perfect world, it would be nice to.

AndrewJ · 17-01-2005, 00:24

Accidental droppage of a satellite from space onto Iranian land....whoops..we so never spotted it..

*shredding of pc read outs warning the goverment of a reentry of a 2mile wide lump of metal"

SOSAGES · 17-01-2005, 08:41

If someones a problem go for it i say

philip.j.fry · 17-01-2005, 08:49

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Originally Posted by punky

Going after Iran probably isn't the smartest move right now, but in in a perfect world, it would be nice to.

Surely in a perfect world (depending on how you see perfection) there would be no need to 'go after' Iran?

Bifta · 17-01-2005, 09:14

America won't go for North Korea because North Korea put's the wind up Bush. America is not the big kid in the playground, it's the bully. Bush thinks he's picking countries that in comparison can only offer up a feeble defense.

BBKing · 17-01-2005, 09:25

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makes me wonder about there cheap cars

Excuse me, you're not confusing North Korea with South Korea at all? I haven't seen many North Korean cars on sale, even in London, where they'd probably be fashionable ('Darling, I've got this wonderful three-cylinder paraffin powered 4x4 from Pyong-Yang Motors, it's quite the in-thing on the school run'). Anyway, we don't invade places that actually have WMDs, it'd be far too dangerous.

Invading Iran would be a great idea, we've already f-ed off the Sunni Muslims by invading Iraq and are about to deny them the vote while giving it to the Shias (resulting in Shia-domination* and shortly afterwards civil war), so lets annoy the Shias as well and have both sides horning into Iraq attacking us. I'd like to say it was impossible but the ignorance and lunacy of the Bush regime have yet to display any boundaries of common sense.

Mind you, what will stop them is lack of manpower. The US isn't big enough to fight two wars.

Pointless fact - al-Qaeda have no links to the Iranian theocracy, as they had no links to Saddam Hussein. In fact they hate Iran as much as they hated Saddam.

*Iranian links to the people likely to win the Iraqi half-election are fairly well known, I hink.

AndrewJ · 17-01-2005, 12:17

SOunds like the world is one big school playground, and Bush is the bully, and Tony is the bully's follower.

So who is the teacher who has them all on reigns?

punky · 17-01-2005, 17:54

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Originally Posted by philip.j.fry

Surely in a perfect world (depending on how you see perfection) there would be no need to 'go after' Iran?

Oh hush, you know what I mean!

With Iran though you don't need to invade it for a regime change. There seems to be so much public dissent in the country, that it only needs minor outside support for it to work. They have overthrown themselves before without much help.

17-01-2005, 18:06

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Originally Posted by nffc

I hate the way the US think it's their responsibility to "sort out" states that in their opinion are a "problem".

It really galls because if they minded their own business more they would be less of a target to terrorists.

And as Blair seems willing to pander to the wishes of the US- it makes us a target as well.

Damn right! Have a green rep.