Want to run Firefox but be able to use all sites?

Richard M · 30-11-2004, 22:46

...then check out Netscape's new browser based on Firefox which can switch to the Trident (IE) rendering engine if a site doesn't work properly.
http://www.betanews.com/article/Outs..._IE/1101831853

Although I wouldn't even bother to use a site if it only worked in IE, this may persuade some people to make the first step away from the Microsoft platform and into the world of open source browsers.

More here:
http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=0...id=114&tid=120
http://planet.mozilla.org/

Bifta · 30-11-2004, 22:51

Alternatively just stay with IE, I don't recall a single site not working with it, much rather that than put anything to do with AOL Netscape on my machine.

Richard M · 30-11-2004, 22:58

Yeah but you lose all the features unless you install some lame modification like MyIE2, nevermind the security concerns.
My mate only just got onto the internet (who Dezzo will know

) and within 5 mins he had several ActiveX controls trying to install themselves.
When I saw him in college today he asked me "what was that browser I used over your house the other day, it was much faster and better because I could browse without being interrupted and I could block any adverts I didn't want?"
That browser was Firefox 1.0...

I just found this BTW:

Quote:

Morpheus: Microsoft is our enemy, Firefox, but when you're on the internet, you look around. What do you see? Business men, teachers, lawyers, carpenters. The very people we are trying to save. But until we do, these people are still IE users. You have to understand, most of these people are not ready to switch to a browser that doesn't come included on their desktop when they bring their computers home from Best Buy and pop in the "2000 Free Hours!" AOL CD. And many of them are so inert, so hopelessly dependent on Microsoft that they will fight to protect it. Were you listening to me Firefox, or were you looking at the woman surfing the hot lesbo porn?
Firefox: I was...
Morpheus: Look again.
Woman has turned into Bill Gates, introducing new "standard" to break non-IE browsers.
Morpheus: Freeze it!
Firefox: What is it?
Morpheus: IE-only standards. That means that anyone we haven't converted over is potential audience for crappy sites who only QA against IE. On the internet, you see this everywhere. We have survived by being standards-based, by working to be compatible. But these false "standards" are the gatekeepers.
Firefox: Whoa.
Morpheus: I won't lie to you, Firefox. Every single company or product that has stood their ground, everyone who was fought Microsoft has been crushed or aquired. But where they have failed, you will succeed.
Firefox: Why?
Morpheus: I saw Microsoft crush Netscape's market share. Men have come up with fantastic innovations only to find them incompatible or MS copies already included in the next version of Windows. Yet their programs are still based on factory-style programming and decisions made by pointy-hairs. Because of that, they will never be as secure or as functional as you can be.
Firefox: What are you trying to tell me, that I can block pop-ups?
Morpheus: I'm trying to tell you that when you're ready, you won't have to.

Bifta · 30-11-2004, 23:02

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Originally Posted by Richard M

Yeah but you lose all the features unless you install some lame modification like MyIE2, nevermind the security concerns.
My mate only just got onto the internet (who Dezzo will know

) and within 5 mins he had several ActiveX controls trying to install themselves.
When I saw him in college today he asked me "what was that browser I used over your house the other day, it was much faster and better because I could browse without being interrupted and I could block any adverts I didn't want?"
That browser was Firefox 1.0...

I just found this BTW:

I'm not sure why I'd install any modifications to IE, I'm perfectly happy with it in it's vanilla form and I've said it before and I'll say it again, Internet Explorer under service pack 2, no spyware has been installed, perhaps your mate was silly enough to allow the manual installation of the activex controls, can't use the internet properly? Pfft .. stay off it then.

Richard M · 30-11-2004, 23:07

No, he found himself clicking "cancel" on quite a few sites he visited and found it annoying.

Bifta · 30-11-2004, 23:13

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Originally Posted by Richard M

No, he found himself clicking "cancel" on quite a few sites he visited and found it annoying.

You don't need to click cancel under SP2, you get an information bar that pops up to tell you it was blocked, you only click it to install it.

Visibleman · 30-11-2004, 23:13

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Originally Posted by Richard M

No, he found himself clicking "cancel" on quite a few sites he visited and found it annoying.

simple solution is to install a popup blocker (like Popup Manager) then install something like Spyware Blaster and Spybot....solved my problem, dont get many ads nor active x crud...plus it allows me to view 99.99999% of sites

(which firefox etc cant).

Gareth · 30-11-2004, 23:13

Bwahahaha, great quote, Rich

Gareth · 30-11-2004, 23:16

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Originally Posted by Visibleman

simple solution is to install a popup blocker (like Popup Manager) then install something like Spyware Blaster and Spybot....solved my problem, dont get many ads nor active x crud...plus it allows me to view 99.99999% of sites

(which firefox etc cant).

Bah, screw that. Why not just ditch Windows but keep IE if you really insist. Sun have released Solaris 10 and it's free of charge! Then get IE for *nix here. Oh, I forgot, they ditched IE on Unix

Visibleman · 30-11-2004, 23:20

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Originally Posted by Gareth

Bah, screw that. Why not just ditch Windows but keep IE if you really insist. Sun have released Solaris 10 and it's free of charge! Then get IE for *nix here. Oh, I forgot, they ditched IE on Unix

ditch windows means over 10ks worth of wasted studio software and hardware lol and tbh, until linux gets some balls and companies produce some decent professional software (like music studio software, art programs etc) then I doubt many people in those industries will use a linux system - apart from a Mac, if you can loosely compare it to linux.

Gareth · 01-12-2004, 00:12

...but Solaris isn't Linux, and Mac OS X == Unix-like in any case.

Oh, and there are industry-standard graphics programs out there that run on Linux. Just ask Industrial Light & Magic. And, iirc, the CGI in Titanic was produced by assembling a cluster of DEC Alpha based computers into a Linux cluster. Instant supercomputer at a small fraction of the cost.

But that's enough hijacking of this thread.

punky · 01-12-2004, 01:12

IMO I have found a nicer way of doing it.

There is an extension called "IEView" which adds "Load in IE" to the document and link context menus, which means you can right click a link or the page you are viewing and launch that page in IE automatically. Works real nice. Why use an IE clone when you can use IE itself?

Jon M · 01-12-2004, 08:37

Why don't you fanboys leave the preaching for religion threads

Bifta · 01-12-2004, 09:00

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Originally Posted by s1lv3r

Why don't you fanboys leave the preaching for religion threads

That would mean merging all the threads that you and other's have preached endlessly about firefox into one religion thread though, sounds like an awful lot of hassle