Workingmen's clubs

Russ · 03-04-2004, 19:18

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/3596799.stm

Are they really being sexist when there are establishments which won't admit men? For example, many swimming baths have women-only session because the women feel more comfortable without men. But what if the patrons of the workingmen's club choose to exclude women for the same reason?

kronas · 03-04-2004, 19:21

*yawns

i fight for equality, but in all fairness i believe women should be allowed in to these clubs, what goes on in these clubs thats secretive ?

whores ?

prostitution ?

i dont think so unless someone tells me otherwise, the excuse could be that men want to be with other men, but you can do that anyway......

**Maggy** · 03-04-2004, 19:26

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Originally Posted by Russ D

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/3596799.stm

Are they really being sexist when there are establishments which won't admit men? For example, many swimming baths have women-only session because the women feel more comfortable without men. But what if the patrons of the workingmen's club choose to exclude women for the same reason?

Well if you WANT to come and listen to women gossip.....

I can assure you we DON'T talk about you men behind your backs.WE would rather talk about you so you can HEAR what we really THINK of you.

paulyoung666 · 03-04-2004, 19:34

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Originally Posted by kronas

*yawns

i fight for equality, but in all fairness i believe women should be allowed in to these clubs, what goes on in these clubs thats secretive ?

whores ?

prostitution ?

i dont think so unless someone tells me otherwise, the excuse could be that men want to be with other men, but you can do that anyway......

when you are old enough you will understand

Dave Stones · 03-04-2004, 19:37

yeh, the dominos competitions and pipe-smoking are a bit extreme for an 18 year old... wait until your 19th birthday

anyway,

. I fail to see why women should be allowed into the club, fair enough the clubs are only similar to clubs we had when we were young'uns, no girls (germs and all that), so yes. its PC gone wrong that women want to be in a WMC... they would have to change the name and everything...

Pierre · 03-04-2004, 19:43

If they're so put out why don't they set up working womens clubs?

**Maggy** · 03-04-2004, 19:52

Dunno why they bothered.It's hardly the height of sophistication.

kronas · 03-04-2004, 19:54

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Originally Posted by paulyoung666

when you are old enough you will understand

i doubt it, it has nothing to do with your ageistic comment, facts are wanted about the real reason for not allowing women in, there is no need for clubs like these, if there is no 'special' reason for having them.

punky · 03-04-2004, 19:54

If men are neanderthals for not allowing women to become associate members (they are still allowed in; what are they whinging about?), then what does that make the women who vote to keep men out of their clubs, gyms and organisations?

Equal rights does mean giving men some too.

Charlie_Bubble · 03-04-2004, 20:16

Women are allowed in working mens clubs. They are just not allowed to be members. That means they have to go in with a member.

**Paul** · 03-04-2004, 20:44

They are private clubs with membership rules, what's the big deal ? it's no different to any private club having a set of membership rules, be it men only, women only, or even train spotters only.

paulyoung666 · 03-04-2004, 21:06

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Originally Posted by kronas

i doubt it, it has nothing to do with your ageistic comment, facts are wanted about the real reason for not allowing women in, there is no need for clubs like these, if there is no 'special' reason for having them.

it was a tongue in cheek joke , nothing personal meant

kronas · 04-04-2004, 02:01

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Originally Posted by paulyoung666

it was a tongue in cheek joke , nothing personal meant

the argument is used alot and has been used alot against me in the past, it just shows plain ageism against people, how would you like it if i balanced your thoughts because 'of your age' age is only a figure its the person inside thoughts the way one handles things 'knowledge' maturity that should count........anyway enough of this back on topic

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Originally Posted by Pem

They are private clubs with membership rules, what's the big deal ? it's no different to any private club having a set of membership rules, be it men only, women only, or even train spotters only.

yes but the underlying fact that i cant fathom is what is so 'good' about these places that they have to be men only, interms of having to be with a man to get in but not being an associate, is just unfair, if it was vice versa i would still say the samething.

Xaccers · 04-04-2004, 02:12

Kronny, you know most people act differently when people of the opposite sex arent' around.
I know I do.
Take me at work for instance, I work with a guy called mark, when we work nights/weekends we'll fart/not shave/burp/not tidy up til our hearts are content
but during the day when ladies are about, we're more refined.
Working men's clubs were a way of men to get away from their women so that they could be men, and fart, drink, be loud, tell rude jokes, smoke, things like that (think back to what society was like when they started, women were not to be farted in front of!)
Heck you couldn't even say heck in front of women!

And women are alowed in, with a member so they are not banned.

Marge · 04-04-2004, 02:14

Did someone say HECK