muslim council: terrorism has no place in Islam

kronas · 01-04-2004, 01:19

the muslim council of britain has sent a letter to every mosque warning them to cease any activitys which maybe of a terrorist nature and signalling to those running the mosques to be 'vigilant' and 'safeguard' the uk from terrorism.

the new buzzword set to light up our screens is Islamaphobia which tony blair has hailed as something 'people should notify us about'

he has welcomed the move by the council.

source: BBC news

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/3586565.stm

this still does not appease me about people wanting to 'get there own back' on 'those' muslims even though most are law abiding citizens

Xaccers · 01-04-2004, 01:26

Can you expand on what you mean by that last sentance and how it relates to the MCB announcment?

kronas · 01-04-2004, 01:33

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Can you expand on what you mean by that last sentance and how it relates to the MCB announcment?

which one the one after the link ?

Xaccers · 01-04-2004, 01:39

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which one the one after the link ?

Yup

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this still does not appease me about people wanting to 'get there own back' on 'those' muslims even though most are law abiding citizens

kronas · 01-04-2004, 01:54

well people still show blatent ignorance and think all muslims are bad, and the media like to stir it up by using the words 'terrorism' and 'islamic' and 'muslims' in one paragraph.

others will soon start to think............and there could be a backlash on the muslim community.

hell im even biased against my own people, i dont see them in the same light, as others

Xaccers · 01-04-2004, 02:00

and how has that got anything to do with what the MCB announced, which was to mosques saying to be vidulent against people pushing terrorism and trying to recruit?

Surely what you're talking about is up to the media and people's own small mindedness to be unable to differentiate between a follower of the koran and someone who claims to follow it while their actions show they do not.

Russ · 01-04-2004, 02:05

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well people still show blatent ignorance and think all muslims are bad, and the media like to stir it up by using the words 'terrorism' and 'islamic' and 'muslims' in one paragraph.

A lot of people tend to show a lack of true understanding to most religions, not just the Muslim faith.

kronas · 01-04-2004, 02:11

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A lot of people tend to show a lack of true understanding to most religions, not just the Muslim faith.

i know russ, i was commenting on this particular section

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and how has that got anything to do with what the MCB announced, which was to mosques saying to be vidulent against people pushing terrorism and trying to recruit?

xaccers, surely you would see whats coming, im talking about people who will inevitably make there own minds up that muslims are terrorists 'stay away from them' 'dont talk to them' witch hunts race related incidents, it happens ofcourse it dos but im talking about it happening on a wider scale.......

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Surely what you're talking about is up to the media and people's own small mindedness to be unable to differentiate between a follower of the koran and someone who claims to follow it while their actions show they do not.

people get information from the media and precieve things diffarently, they make there judgement, to you and me its blatently obvious what terrorism and religion are, two seperate issues one of which is being used an excuse to recruit people.

Xaccers · 01-04-2004, 02:20

I know what you're getting at with people's, well I guess, stupidity, which isn't helped by the media's reference to the terrorists as muslim or islamic.

I'm just confused as you seemed to suggest that what the MCB said was supposed to address that.

kronas · 01-04-2004, 02:26

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I know what you're getting at with people's, well I guess, stupidity, which isn't helped by the media's reference to the terrorists as muslim or islamic.

you see, i know its not of much relevance to you and me, but not everyone can think for themselves and see the 'real light'

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I'm just confused as you seemed to suggest that what the MCB said was supposed to address that.

i think they were trying to send a message to people that they are pro-active in keeping the UK safe from rouge mosques, who have people hell bent on causing terrorism and recruiting, hence the letter to mosques.......

punky · 01-04-2004, 11:36

It is a nice idea, but I really doubt it would do any good. One of the biggest problems we have are with the fanatical clerics that preach hate against the west. They are the ones that brainwash the kids, and it's only a matter of time before they team up with others to do some damage. I really don't think the clerics will be swayed by this too much, and I get the feeling what it is more of a PR exercise than anything else.

One thing that might happen, is the more moderate Imans might be a proactive about the kind of meetings that happen in his mosque though hopefully. That'll help a lot, but if they can't meet at a mosque they'll just meet somewhere else.

**Chris** · 01-04-2004, 12:19

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I know what you're getting at with people's, well I guess, stupidity, which isn't helped by the media's reference to the terrorists as muslim or islamic.

I'm just confused as you seemed to suggest that what the MCB said was supposed to address that.

The media isn't about to change the way it describes these people - it quite happily spent the 1980s ascribing the title 'Christian' to one of the sides fighting over Beirut. I expect people of other faiths could provide further examples. The media, especially the tabloid Press, is addictied to these simplistic pigeon holes.

Simon Rochelle · 01-04-2004, 13:12

I think it is a bold step forward by the Muslim Council. Most Muslims feel very strongly against the acts of the extremists, yet do not speak out against them for fear of persicuation and attack by there own people. It is good and encouraging to see that there are moves at the highest levels to try and now deter and counter the threat that the fanatics represent. Wether it does any good or not, it is none-the-less a positive sight.

Simon Rochelle · 01-04-2004, 13:15

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One thing that might happen, is the more moderate Imans might be a proactive about the kind of meetings that happen in his mosque though hopefully. That'll help a lot, but if they can't meet at a mosque they'll just meet somewhere else.

This is still a good thing, as if they can force the extremists underground, they will have less of an audience to continue to incite there hatred and posion the minds of young and impressionable people.