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Old 11-11-2003, 21:10   #1
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Angry tv licence guess what ?

the tv licence is going up by £5 the colour licence will now cost £121 per year

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertain...io/3261007.stm

now im strongly against a tv licence at all the BBC create hardly any programming worth watching the bbc can adequatly fund itself through advertising and selling its books videos dvd's as well as licencing its productions to other countries
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Old 11-11-2003, 21:15   #2
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the tv licence is going up by £5 the colour licence will now cost £121 per year
Ah well whats another fiver?
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Old 11-11-2003, 21:17   #3
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the tv licence is going up by £5 the colour licence will now cost £121 per year

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertain...io/3261007.stm

now im strongly against a tv licence at all the BBC create hardly any programming worth watching the bbc can adequatly fund itself through advertising and selling its books videos dvd's as well as licencing its productions to other countries
In america they have a break every 5 min, you do not want this here The bbc is the last stand against complete capitallistic TV.

Seriously on an episode of the simpsons you have:
1) the opening credits
2) adverts
3) bit of story
4) adverts
5) more bit of story
6) adverts
7) closing credits
It was terrible They even did this with the films
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Old 11-11-2003, 21:20   #4
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In america they have a break every 5 min, you do not want this here The bbc is the last stand against complete capitallistic TV.

Seriously on an episode of the simpsons you have:
1) the opening credits
2) adverts
3) bit of story
4) adverts
5) more bit of story
6) adverts
7) closing credits
It was terrible They even did this with the films

i think your going a little too overboard there the BBC get all the money they make more money by using the alternative methods i previously mentioned

they launch channels full of repeats or 'timeshifted' programs

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Re: tv licence guess what ?

Well they do pay their news presenters £400,00 0 a year, they've got to get that somehow...
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i think your going a little too overboard there the BBC get all the money they make more money by using the alternative methods i previously mentioned

they launch channels full of repeats or 'timeshifted' programs

The experience of American TV has caused me to want to defend the BBC with my life. the digital channels are merely to competely technologically. Beside some people like repeats if they have busy scheduels.
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The experience of American TV has caused me to want to defend the BBC with my life. the digital channels are merely to competely technologically. Beside some people like repeats if they have busy scheduels.

yes but some of there digital satellite channels are set up for repeats soley catering to them i dont mind uk gold because it variates its schedule

but i doubt they could turn in to the american style of advertising

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Well they do pay their news presenters £400,00 0 a year, they've got to get that somehow...
yes there overpayed presenters who look medicore at best except a few
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now im strongly against a tv licence at all the BBC create hardly any programming worth watching the bbc can adequatly fund itself through advertising and selling its books videos dvd's as well as licencing its productions to other countries
Yes the bbc can get funds this way - but so does every other station. The TV license is the only think allowing the bbc to compete without introducing advertisements. Which in my opinion is not worth it. When was the last time the cost was raised? - this may be due to inflation.

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yes there overpayed presenters who look medicore at best except a few
Do I detect a hint of prejudice based on appearances?
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When was the last time the cost was raised??
Last year to pay for the new BBC digital channels that no one watches
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Yes the bbc can get funds this way - but so does every other station. The TV license is the only think allowing the bbc to compete without introducing advertisements. Which in my opinion is not worth it. When was the last time the cost was raised? - this may be due to inflation.
the tv licence is clearly a huge advantage to the BBC in terms of finding finance but i still cant see any justification for a tv licence especially a yearly increase

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Do I detect a hint of prejudice based on appearances?
i meant presenting style the amount of effort they put in with contestants using the script you need to have the knack for presenting not look like an idiot in your presentation


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Last year to pay for the new BBC digital channels that no one watches
i bet they struggle to get 10,000 viewers on the new channels
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The BBC should concentrate on what (historically at least) it's good at, documentaries, dramas, family comedy.
It should not try and run itself like a commercial TV company.
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Re: tv licence guess what ?

K, do you not think that if the licence fee is scrapped the beeb will take on advertising and then the price of your purchases (whatever they may be) will go up to pay for it, swings and roundabouts mate, when you leave home and buy / rent a house, another fiver is nothing, believe me.
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The BBC should concentrate on what (historically at least) it's good at, documentaries, dramas, family comedy.
It should not try and run itself like a commercial TV company.
It doesn't. A subsidiary runs UK TV as a joint venture with one of the former ITV franchises ... Thames, I think. BBC Worldwide sells the merchandise and the profits are skimmed off to augment the TV licence fee and help pay for 8 TV channels, 8 (?) national radio channels and a dozen or more local radio stations. There are no commercial breaks on any of these channels. If the BBC went to a subscription model, the inevitable result would be ads as well as a subscription, as there would be bound to be people who would opt out.

Some things, everyone should help to pay for whether they use them or not because they are part of the infrastructure of this country ... roads, railways, the BBC. We all rely on the BBC at one time or another and deep down we all know they are damn good at what they do. Every single event that's televised live on both BBC1 and ITV1 will be watched on the BBC by at least twice as many people as watch it on ITV.

And besides, without the BBC and its prolific output of original programming, where would all the satellite stations get their programming from? Sky creams the best of the American stuff, but even they scrape the barrel from time to time (anyone ever see any of Dead Like Me?)

And anyway, I disagree with the notion that the digital channels are a waste of money. I have enjoyed good, original material on both BBC3 and 4, and we watch 3 in our house almost as much as Sky One. As for the kids' channels ... well, Cbeebies is the only free-to-air tots channel and is the only one with almost entirely British-made programming, so it supports our son in learning, for example, British English rather than American (anyone else remember being confused by Sesame Street's insistence on saying 'zee' instead of 'zed'?) BBC digital would be worth it for Cbeebies if nothing else ... and so says our 14-month-old!
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K, do you not think that if the licence fee is scrapped the beeb will take on advertising and then the price of your purchases (whatever they may be) will go up to pay for it, swings and roundabouts mate,when you leave home and buy / rent a house,
i dont think people mind a pound or two increase on the BBC's media that it distributes


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another fiver is nothing, believe me.
i understand but you have to take a stance sometime why do they call it rip off britain



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The BBC should concentrate on what (historically at least) it's good at, documentaries, dramas, family comedy.

some of those are not too appealing but nonetheless the viewing figures show people do watch them so yes they should do that


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It should not try and run itself like a commercial TV company.
correct it(the BBC) is just monopolising its position it knows it has an advantage via funding
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i understand but you have to take a stance sometime why do they call it rip off britain
Because they're the Sun, and think that sheep will believe them when they tell us that we pay over the odds for stuff

The BBC is a British institution and we should just live with it. Its like saying we should knock down Big Ben.

I know they are/having a rough time at the moment with Andrew G and all but they are the ones I turn to for accurate digital news.
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