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Old 14-11-2003, 20:08   #1
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Does anyone here actually read news articles by the Baathist Broadcasting Corp?

Ignoring the recent scandals of how BBC are lying to the public, I found this interesting snippet online:

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It's lockdown time in London. The anti-war left, who let the visits of Mugabe and Assad pass without much protest, is galvanizing to bring the country to a standstill during Bush's visit. The BBC is in the vanguard of anti-Bush hysteria. A British reader (an ex-pat American) writes:

It's really bad here. Yesterday Radio 4 PM Programme they had an American 'expert' commenting on the American failures in Iraq. Of course it was some guy from the Clinton administration. Channel 4 had Americans who hate Bush and showed them preparing for their protest. Will Michael More be joining them? It wouldn't surprise me.
The BBC is working the country into a frenzy regarding the upcoming Bush visit. Personally, I would love to go up to London and hold a placard welcoming the President but I fear for my safety. The Mall looks great with all the flags but I have no doubt it will all be trashed. We're getting reports that anarchists will storm Buckingham Palace. The papier mache effigies of W are nearly complete. (Don't these people have jobs??).
I can't get any break from it. I was on a school inspection this week in Southampton and a weedy member of the inspection team cornered me and starting in on Bush and how she had marched against the war, etc. This was not the time nor place to express political views of any type. I simply informed her that I was a New Yorker and that my sister and brother-in-law had lost eight neighbours in the World Trade Center and I wholly support President Bush and the fight against terrorism. Silence.
Your column this morning is absolutely right - these people have forgotten 9/11.
After 22 years in Surrey we're looking to move to America.
Is it really that bad?

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"These well-meaning gentlemen of the British Broadcasting Corporation have absolutely no qualifications and no claim to represent British public opinion. They have no right to say that they voice the opinions of English or British people whatever. If anyone can do that it is His Majesty's government; and there may be two opinions about that. It would be far better to have sharply contrasted views in succession, in alteration, than to have this copious stream of pontifical, anonymous mugwumpery with which we have been dosed for so long." - from a speech in the House of Commons, February 22, 1933.

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CHURCHILL ON THE BBC II: Another wonderful tidbit from the greatest Briton:
Churchill's doctor, Lord Moran, favored continuing the BBC monopoly. When he questioned Churchill about it, the great man exploded. "For eleven years they kept me off the air. They prevented me from expressing views which have proved to be right. Their behavior has been tyrannical. They are honeycombed with Socialists - probably with Communists."

True again today. They no longer have a monopoly - but they still force Brits to pay for propaganda. This nugget can be found in "Diaries of Lord Moran: The Struggle for Survival, 1940-1965," page 417.
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Re: Bbc

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Does anyone here actually read news articles by the Baathist Broadcasting Corp?

Ignoring the recent scandals of how BBC are lying to the public, I found this interesting snippet online:



Is it really that bad?

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few questions m8
what nationality are u?
why do u post here?
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Old 14-11-2003, 20:53   #3
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few questions m8
what nationality are u?
why do u post here?
edit:- spellcheck

darkangel, so what? He is quite well known. I don't think there any rules on nthellworld.co.uk to prevent anyone on the planet contributing if they wish to do so. Jerrek has in the past made some interesting contributions be it about Canada, cable services in north America or whatever. I don't agree with everything he contributes but sometimes he makes interesting contributions.

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Old 14-11-2003, 20:56   #4
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Re: Bbc

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darkangel, so what? He is quite well known. I don't think there any rules on nthellworld.co.uk to prevent anyone on the planet contributing if they wish to do so. Jerrek has in the past made some interesting contributions be it about Canada, cable services in north America or whatever. I don't agree with everything he contributes but sometimes he makes interesting contributions.


i suppose jerrek does start some interesting conversations from time to time , hows the snow over there btw , hope you dont get snowed in too bad
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Old 14-11-2003, 21:08   #5
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Does anyone here actually read news articles by the Baathist Broadcasting Corp?

Ignoring the recent scandals of how BBC are lying to the public...snipped
hehe you like to stir us up, don't you

- of course we watch the BBC - and ITN & CNN & Sky News, etc - I think if the BBC were so different in their spin on events, we would notice - bias while they had a monopoply in the UK cannot happen in the same way now.
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Old 14-11-2003, 21:09   #6
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BBC=British Broadcasting Corporation not Baathist Broadcasting Corporation
And what lies???
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Old 14-11-2003, 21:11   #7
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Just accept it - the BBC isn't american therefore it prints LIES!!
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Re: Bbc

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Is it really that bad?

Well on Radio 4 driving to work today they did give a few minutes of listeners comments pro the bush visit, but that was because they'd already given anti-bush comments in a previous program.

I have no problem with a news company reporting on mistakes etc that are being made, but at least be objective and show all the good work that is being done over there.
Many reports tell of how bad things are in hospitals etc, but they don't mention if it was also that bad under Saddam.
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BBC=British Broadcasting Corporation not Baathist Broadcasting Corporation
And what lies???
Because the BBC weren't putting an "American" spin on reporting the war in Iraq. They are therefore Saddam's mouthpiece in the eyes of Jerrek.
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Old 14-11-2003, 21:29   #10
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Because the BBC weren't putting an "American" spin on reporting the war in Iraq. They are therefore Saddam's mouthpiece in the eyes of Jerrek.
yeah - they normally try to be objective about news

tho they could do with reporting a lot more european stuff and a lot less american

the way they were covering the presidency thing in the USA you would have not been surprised if your kid came running into the house shouting

"gee mom, where have you put my sneakers?"


and,

"are we going to uncle bubba's for thanksgiving?"
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yeah - they normally try to be objective about news

Sorry? Do you have access to some version of the bbc different to the rest of us?

When was the last time they did a report on all the improvments that are going on in Iraq?


And I think the lies Jerrek is talking about would have something to do with the BBC's claims about labour's dossiers
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Apparently Winson Churchill (a guy I admire) didn't appreciate BBC either.
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Sorry? Do you have access to some version of the bbc different to the rest of us?

When was the last time they did a report on all the improvments that are going on in Iraq?


And I think the lies Jerrek is talking about would have something to do with the BBC's claims about labour's dossiers

maybe I should have put it
they 'should' be objective about it

and are 'supposed' to be
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Apparently Winson Churchill (a guy I admire) didn't appreciate BBC either.

Churchill was more concerned about Stalin than Hitler


and most of the middle east and stuff was arranged with the use of the following

1) Copious amounts of brandy
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maybe I should have put it
they 'should' be objective about it

and are 'supposed' to be
I agree, they should be and are supposed to be.
I don't feel that they are though.
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