Schools and NHS could be held accountable over youth crime

**Maggy** · 01-04-2019, 09:57

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-47768631

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Teachers, NHS workers and police officers could be held accountable for failing to spot violent crime among young people under government plans announced on Monday.

Home Secretary Sajid Javid has launched a consultation to assess whether there is a "public health duty" to report concerns over children at risk.

I'm incensed by this..Why don't we hold THIS government to account for the endless unrelenting austerity that sees all these people under resourced and underfunded? It's a good job that I have to watch my language here.

denphone · 01-04-2019, 10:00

Typical of this government always absolving themselves of their responsibilities and making sure others get the blame instead.

Carth · 01-04-2019, 10:54

Another great idea by those far removed from reality

I'm sure it will be a massive boost to the recruitment of Teachers, NHS staff etc

Halcyon · 01-04-2019, 11:00

Is this for real?!

I work in a school and my wife in the NHS and I can say the amount of education, safeguarding and help we give to young people goes above and beyond.

Yet another way to pass the blame whilst MP's relax in their villas abroad oblivious to the way the world really works.
It's time to completely scrap this whole government.

nomadking · 01-04-2019, 11:15

While May is totally inept and this is yet another example of it, Labour and the LibDems would make matters worse. Just look at the names and pictures of the culprits to see what the underlying problem is, and which governments have been disproportionately responsible for it.

**Maggy** · 01-04-2019, 13:30

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Originally Posted by nomadking

While May is totally inept and this is yet another example of it, Labour and the LibDems would make matters worse. Just look at the names and pictures of the culprits to see what the underlying problem is, and which governments have been disproportionately responsible for it.

It's THIS government that's under discussion and it's their suggestion not the previous governments.

nomadking · 01-04-2019, 13:34

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Originally Posted by Maggy J

It's THIS government that's under discussion and it's their suggestion not the previous governments.

The culprits haven't suddenly materialised out of nowhere. The actions and inactions of the past affect the present and future.

denphone · 01-04-2019, 13:37

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Originally Posted by nomadking

The culprits haven't suddenly materialised out of nowhere. The actions and inactions of the past affect the present and future.

We are not talking about the past though as we are talking about the present day government unless you want to pretend that some of their policies and their decisions from those policies don't actually do any damage across the country.

**Maggy** · 01-04-2019, 13:39

Seriously? More whataboutism? I'm incensed as a teacher that professional colleagues will be legally liable for missing some student involved in knife crime when they are already overworked and under resourced when their job is to EDUCATE not police their students.

Carth · 01-04-2019, 14:01

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Originally Posted by Maggy J

I'm incensed as a teacher that professional colleagues will be legally liable for missing some student involved in knife crime when they are already overworked and under resourced when their job is to EDUCATE not police their students.

papa smurf · 01-04-2019, 14:16

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Originally Posted by Maggy J

Seriously? More whataboutism? I'm incensed as a teacher that professional colleagues will be legally liable for missing some student involved in knife crime when they are already overworked and under resourced when their job is to EDUCATE not police their students.

They have plenty of time to police haircuts clothing and shoes

nomadking · 01-04-2019, 14:38

I would really like to know SPECIFICALLY and EXPLICITLY, what the Police or anybody else could do in order to prevent any incident. A 10 fold increase in Police numbers wouldn't solve a thing. They can't be everywhere, or is everybody going to be provided with multiple 24/7 bodyguards?

Basicially it's TOO late to solve it. The damage has been done.

Taf · 01-04-2019, 16:35

Smacking is about to be made illegal in Wales. So that is another reason we are going to see more feral kids in the future IMHO. Discipline should be the parents' responsibility, not teachers or police, but so may parents were undisciplined that that's unlikely to happen.

**Maggy** · 01-04-2019, 16:44

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Originally Posted by papa smurf

They have plenty of time to police haircuts clothing and shoes

Which is part of preparing students for real life in the workplace.

mrmistoffelees · 01-04-2019, 17:51

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Originally Posted by nomadking

I would really like to know SPECIFICALLY and EXPLICITLY, what the Police or anybody else could do in order to prevent any incident. A 10 fold increase in Police numbers wouldn't solve a thing. They can't be everywhere, or is everybody going to be provided with multiple 24/7 bodyguards?

Basicially it's TOO late to solve it. The damage has been done.

That doesn't mean there shouldn't be a considerable effort by the Police to repair as much of the damage as possible and to minimize any further damage. Perhaps their needs to be consideration of resource deployment etc.

budget dependencies/prioritization of course.

The teacher/NHS part is nonsense.

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Originally Posted by Maggy J

Which is part of preparing students for real life in the workplace.

Got to disagree on this one, if this is still being done it's archaic.