Are all terrorists Muslim?

**Hugh** · 31-01-2015, 15:59

Not even close....

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So here are some statistics for those interested. Let’s start with Europe. Want to guess what percent of the terrorist attacks there were committed by Muslims over the past five years? Wrong. That is, unless you said less than 2 percent.

As Europol, the European Union’s law-enforcement agency, noted in its report released last year, the vast majority of terror attacks in Europe were perpetrated by separatist groups. For example, in 2013, there were 152 terror attacks in Europe. Only two of them were “religiously motivated,” while 84 were predicated upon ethno-nationalist or separatist beliefs....

....And as a 2014 study by University of North Carolina found, since the 9/11 attacks, Muslim-linked terrorism has claimed the lives of 37 Americans. In that same time period, more than 190,000 Americans were murdered (PDF).

In fact in 2013, it was actually more likely Americans would be killed by a toddler than a terrorist. In that year, three Americans were killed in the Boston Marathon bombing. How many people did toddlers kill in 2013? Five, all by accidentally shooting a gun.

papa smurf · 31-01-2015, 16:05

i wouldn't turn my back on one

Osem · 31-01-2015, 16:08

Does anyone seriously think they are? If and when this current nonsense dies down, the plethora of other terrorist organisations will occupy our airtime once again. As usual, the media largely determines what view of events we are presented with and it seems they view Islamic terror is the news story which just keeps on giving.

nomadking · 31-01-2015, 16:38

Part of the problem is that many terrorist attacks don't get classed as such.

**Hugh** · 31-01-2015, 16:45

Any evidence to back up that assertion?

**Damien** · 31-01-2015, 17:37

When it says ethno-nationalist does that include chechnya?

nomadking · 31-01-2015, 17:54

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Originally Posted by Hugh

Any evidence to back up that assertion?

Of course
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The Islamists who committed the Charlie Hebdo massacre in Paris should be not be described as “terrorists” by the BBC, a senior executive at the corporation has said.

Tarik Kafala, the head of BBC Arabic, the largest of the BBC’s non-English language news services, said the term “terrorist” was too “loaded” to describe the actions of the men who killed 12 people in the attack on the French satirical magazine.
Mr Kafala, whose BBC Arabic television, radio and online news services reach a weekly audience of 36 million people, told The Independent: “We try to avoid describing anyone as a terrorist or an act as being terrorist. What we try to do is to say that ‘two men killed 12 people in an attack on the office of a satirical magazine’. That’s enough, we know what that means and what it is.”

**Maggy** · 31-01-2015, 18:13

The BBC can use as much semantics as they like but they are not the final arbiters on who are terrorists.That's down to the security forces who will designate the facts in their reports which will be the official version.

**Hugh** · 31-01-2015, 18:49

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Originally Posted by nomadking

Part of the problem is that many terrorist attacks don't get classed as such.

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Originally Posted by Hugh

Any evidence to back up that assertion?

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Originally Posted by nomadking

Of course
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ROFLcopter......

Are you seriously trying to put forward the proposition that the Charlie Hebdo atrocity was not classed as, and widely reported as, a terrorist attack?

btw....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-31047020

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Charlie Hebdo: Bulgaria extradites terror suspect

A Frenchman said to be connected to the gunmen behind a deadly terrorist attack in Paris has been extradited from Bulgaria to France.

Fritz-Joly Joachin was detained while trying to cross into Turkey, a French judicial official said.

Mr Joachin has admitted to being an associate of the attackers of Charlie Hebdo magazine but denies being aware of their plans.

Seventeen people were killed in a series of attacks in Paris in January.

Mr Joachin is accused of participating in a terrorist group and of having links to a network of people sending fighters to Syria.

denphone · 31-01-2015, 18:51

The answer to the Hugh's question is a pure and simple no despite some posters protestation's that nearly every Muslim is a walking time bomb which is of course utter nonsense.

dilli-theclaw · 31-01-2015, 19:24

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Originally Posted by denphone

The answer to the Hugh's question is a pure and simple no despite some posters protestation's that nearly every Muslim is a walking time bomb which is of course utter nonsense.

I always find it surprising how many people think this, but then look at how populous the daily fail and Britain first are! It's usually people that read this stuff that think it.

But to be fair some people will believe anything.

Pierre · 31-01-2015, 20:07

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Originally Posted by denphone

The answer to the Hugh's question is a pure and simple no despite some posters protestation's that nearly every Muslim is a walking time bomb which is of course utter nonsense.

Don't think anyone has ever said that?

That article in the OP is sloppy (and that's being very kind).

Terrorism from Islamic extremism is the biggest threat facing this country and most of the globe. To think otherwise is just sticking your head in a very big hole.

Be it organised, lone wolves, or inspired by.

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So here are some statistics for those interested. Let’s start with Europe. Want to guess what percent of the terrorist attacks there were committed by Muslims over the past five years? Wrong. That is, unless you said less than 2 percent.

As Europol, the European Union’s law-enforcement agency, noted in its report released last year, the vast majority of terror attacks in Europe were perpetrated by separatist groups. For example, in 2013, there were 152 terror attacks in Europe. Only two of them were “religiously motivated,” while 84 were predicated upon ethno-nationalist or separatist beliefs.

Or what about the (dare I mention them) Jewish terrorists? Per the 2013 State Department’s report on terrorism, there were 399 acts of terror committed by Israeli settlers.
We are talking about groups like France’s FLNC, which advocates an independent nation for the island of Corsica. In December 2013, FLNC terrorists carried out simultaneous rocket attacks against police stations in two French cities. And in Greece in late 2013, the left-wing Militant Popular Revolutionary Forces shot and killed two members of the right-wing political party Golden Dawn. While over in Italy, the anarchist group FAI engaged in numerous terror attacks including sending a bomb to a journalist. And the list goes on and on.

There's a lot of words there, that tell you sod all.

If the list goes on and on.

Provide the list, describing exactly what each incident was.

Be interesting to see how many were killed.

Would also be interesting to include all of the planned attacks that were foiled.

Put it this way, I don't expect an attack in the UK by the IRA, or the FLNC, FAI, golden Dawn or whoever.

But I would expect an attack from an Islamic Extremist.

The more we refuse to face up to this issue, the more we invite an attack.

Julian · 31-01-2015, 20:41

Reads to me as an anti-American rant by some muslim guy.

Shame as he may have had a point to make.....

31-01-2015, 20:49

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Originally Posted by Julian

Reads to me as an anti-American rant by some muslim guy.

Shame as he may have had a point to make.....

Dean Obeidallah is an Arab American commedian

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dean_Obeidallah

nomadking · 31-01-2015, 20:55

I suppose this wasn't a terrorist attack.

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Funerals have taken place in southern Pakistan for the victims of a suicide attack on a Shia mosque during Friday prayers which police say killed at least 60 people.

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Dozens were also wounded in the attack in Sindh province's Shikarpur district, making it one of the worst sectarian attacks in Pakistan in recent years.