There is trouble afoot

13-09-2010, 05:56

Unions last night warned they were joining forces for a series of co-ordinated strikes that will bring Britain to a juddering halt.
By working together for maximum impact, they said the country would be crippled by strikes, civil disobedience and other forms of peaceful protest against Government cuts.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz0zNzzvwX7

That's all we need

Things are bad enough as it is.

punky · 13-09-2010, 06:08

****. Just ****. No matter what they'll do they'll only end up hurting the honest, decent folk who just want to do their job and earn a living,or just go about their day-to-day business.

The unions are deuded when they always seem to think they always have overwhelming public support. It's clear they won't here. So it will be interestiung to see what happens.

Also I heard coordinated strikes was illegal?But I am sure it goes on. On the recent strike on the underground, one union striked before and ended just as the other one was starting.

papa smurf · 13-09-2010, 06:27

oh joy a winter of discontent -this will round off the not so perfect year just dandy

Sirius · 13-09-2010, 07:13

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Originally Posted by yesman

Unions last night warned they were joining forces for a series of co-ordinated strikes that will bring Britain to a juddering halt.
By working together for maximum impact, they said the country would be crippled by strikes, civil disobedience and other forms of peaceful protest against Government cuts.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz0zNzzvwX7

That's all we need

Things are bad enough as it is.

So yet again the Union dinosaurs are going to bugger up this country.

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This follows Rail, Maritime and Transport Workers' (RMT) leader Bob Crow calling for a campaign of "civil disobedience" in protest

Bob Crow should be put against a wall and SHOT for his actions

So not only are Unions the people who decide who the next leader of the Labour party are but they can also be the reason why this country becomes the poor man of Europe again with there strike disease. Unions are as much use as a light house in the desert.

So now i will have my life disrupted by a bunch of idiots who have no other reason to do this than dig at the government. I feel sorry for those that will lose their jobs because the union numpties start a strike that could push a company into bankruptcy

The unions are a sign of a bygone age and have no place in a modern world.

Well if the CWU try it where i work they will be told to sling there hook.

Mr_love_monkey · 13-09-2010, 07:40

Bob Crow is nothing more than a thug in a suit - he had to have a special suit made to pull his arms in so his knuckles wouldn't drag on the floor when he walked.

I'm really tired of being held to ransom by these people

**Chris** · 13-09-2010, 08:29

A bunch of raving trots with no respect for the fact that the parties on the Government benches won the support of a very clear majority of the British people. Still, since when has democracy ever trumped naked self interest for these people.

Osem · 13-09-2010, 08:31

I thought that unions were there to speak for their members and not try to give the impression they somehow represent the vast majority of the population who will actually suffer greatly if these people get their way.

According to this:

http://www.strongerunions.org/2010/0...eady-as-we-go/

Union membership is 56% in the public sector and 15% in the private sector so they barely even represent the majority of the workforce in the former.

The likes of Bob Crow can dress it all up as some sort of good cause they're serving but I doubt he and his ilk will lose much sleep over anyone who loses their job or otherwise suffers as a result of union action.

Sirius · 13-09-2010, 09:01

Unions are a left over that has no place in these modern times.The bosses of the unions always remind me of that great Communist saying, Whats yours is mine, But whats mine is my own so get your hands off.

Funny how they act as if they run the country, Well let me say at the moment they Don't because Labour are not in power. This time they will find out that most people in the real world just want to get on with there jobs and don't give a fig about there willy waving. The only place they might get support is in the public sector and even then i feel most will want to get on and work to feed there families.

Union bosses love strikes as it makes them look important and of course they can strut there stuff in front of the press, Self serving gits they are who don't give a fig about you and me at all.

As i said they better not try it in our office as a swift uck off normally does offend

Pierre · 13-09-2010, 09:06

It's up to the worker to fight back,

as you can see from the above they barely represent the majority in the public sector and are all but impotent in the private sector.

Would I cross a picket line?
Yes, I bloody well would. I've never been a member of a union and don't intend to start.

I guarantee you that whilst all his low paid members are out on strike not being paid, that Bob Crow and his ilk will still be enjoying their six figure salaries that his poorer members have contributed to.

MovedGoalPosts · 13-09-2010, 09:42

I fail to understand what strikes really achieve. Yes eventually there might be a pay rise, but if yo've been on strike for a couple of weeks, how much money have you lost before you even got that pay rise? Maybe there might be some form of hardship fund, but that isn't going to go far. Meanwhile the company involved is damaged and in the cases of companies such as British Airways where there is plenty of competition, then that will ultimately lead to a reduction in workforce as customers look elsewhere. Unfortunately in monopoly situations such as public service there aren't alternatives for the customer and the strike mentality can have greater impact due to the innocents in any often contrived dispute.

What really bugs me though in all of this argument about cuts and reduction in spending is the common sense economic reality that you have to balance the books. As a household you know you can only get so much credit as loans, overdrafts, etc before you can't get any moe, and your own interest repayments become too much to bear. Why do some expect that the government can just keep endlessly borrowing beyond it's means?

Sirius · 13-09-2010, 09:45

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Originally Posted by Pierre

It's up to the worker to fight back,

as you can see from the above they barely represent the majority in the public sector and are all but impotent in the private sector.

Would I cross a picket line?
Yes, I bloody well would. I've never been a member of a union and don't intend to start.

I guarantee you that whilst all his low paid members are out on strike not being paid, that Bob Crow and his ilk will still be enjoying their six figure salaries that his poorer members have contributed to.

That's the way of the Union bosses, High salary's, Big cars, Fancy offices all paid for by the the workers who's jobs will be at risk by the unions stupid willy waving actions.

Yes i would cross a picket line and yes i would sue the union if i can if i lost wages because of there actions.

Osem · 13-09-2010, 09:48

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Originally Posted by Rob

Why do some expect that the government can just keep endlessly borrowing beyond it's means?

Because, in their cosseted existence, that's what they've become used to and they don't want to give any of it up. To hell with everyone else.....

grandmaster · 13-09-2010, 10:00

Im in the union and to be honest I forgot I was.
<Checks pay slip>
hmmmm i think I shall be leaving as I dont think I need to be in.

TheDaddy · 13-09-2010, 10:19

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Originally Posted by Chris

A bunch of raving trots with no respect for the fact that the parties on the Government benches won the support of a very clear majority of the British people. Still, since when has democracy ever trumped naked self interest for these people.

Yeah the very clear majority, that's why it's a coalition, nobody ticked the slip for that option...

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Pierre

It's up to the worker to fight back,

as you can see from the above they barely represent the majority in the public sector and are all but impotent in the private sector.

Could that be because a lot of firms refuse to recognise a union, as my place does.

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Prime Minister David Cameron’s spokesman recently insisted: ‘The cuts are not something that the Government would choose to do, but it is something that it is required to do because of the state of the public finances.’

Why do I get the impression it's some thing they have set about with almost religious zeal, it's almost as if they are enjoying cutting things...

**Chris** · 13-09-2010, 10:22

This is a representative Parliamentary democracy Daddy ... we vote for individual MPs. A clear majority of the British electorate returned MPs who are now sitting on the Government benches.

Anyone who claims 'we didn't vote for a coalition' is both ignorant of the basic processes in our system and is also, IMO, being wilfully ignorant of all the polling and punditry that went on in the month prior to the election. It was abundantly clear that no single party was going to get an outright majority.