NTL (VM) staff involved in 'Cash for Crash' scam.

[Gary L]

The group, led by butcher Darren Duvall, conspired to defraud thousands of pounds in insurance claims from Allianz Cornhill, Liverpool Crown Court was told.
Duvall sought out workers at cable TV company NTL, now part of Virgin Media, and convinced them to pretend they had crashed their company cars into another vehicle which was packed with passengers.
Once the NTL employee had accepted responsibility for the collision, the "victims" were to claim the cash and split the compensation.
But insurance fraud investigators were quickly alerted to the scam and established the car crashes never actually took place. Damage to vehicles was faked and the injured passengers were coached in what to tell medics and lawyers.

http://latestnews.virginmedia.com/ne...cash_for_crash

Shouldn't the thread header be "NTL staff involved in 'Cash for Crash' scam?

The events occurred in 2005, and Virgin Media was launched in February 2007.

Liverpool Echo

Inquiries quickly revealed very similar accidents had all occurred over a short period in 2005 and in a small area.

[Gary L]

NTL is Virgin Media. only the name has changed.

Yes, it is now, but the incidents happened before Virgin Media existed, so how could they be Virgin Media staff?

(and if you read page three of the Liverpool Post article, you would find some of the people found guility were ex-NTL staff).

[Gary L]

They're not known as NTL anymore. NTL isn't relevant when it's a news story about Virgin Media.
they're Virgin Media staff still whichever way you look at it. just like if your name was nobby 2 years ago and I was talking about you now. I'd talk about you using the name you're using now.

it's my thread and it stays as Virgin Media

Whatever, dude

[superbiatch]

How embarassing, I know a few of them

They got what they deserve, hopefully my car insurance premiums might be cheaper in the future if more of these *******s are jailed

Title changed, move to current affairs. This has nothing directly to do with VM.

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Originally Posted by Gary L

it's my thread and it stays as Virgin Media

Wrong.

[papa smurf]

well thats pretty unbelievable
my experience of ntl/vm staff is there all top notch pillars of society who do a darn good job .

must have scraped the bottom of the barrel when this lot were recruited.

this type of insurance scam has been going on for years .A taxi driver friend of mine was caught up in a similar scam where his punter was in partnership with another who drove in front of the taxi deliberately caused the taxi to crash into the back of him by breaking sharply thus "injuring" the driver of the first car and passenger of the taxi insurance claims where made on the taxi drivers insurance and proceeds split ,a thoroughly nasty and dangerous scam

on the subject of the thread title i think it is slightly slanderous to VM staff to include VM in the title in any way ,they weren't VM employees at the time and this has nothing to do with VM staff

[Peter_]

Originally Posted by Gary L

They're not known as NTL anymore. NTL isn't relevant when it's a news story about Virgin Media.
they're Virgin Media staff still whichever way you look at it. just like if your name was nobby 2 years ago and I was talking about you now. I'd talk about you using the name you're using now.

it's my thread and it stays as Virgin Media

You may have noticed that your original title was changed after I reported it.

I also thought that it should not say anything about them being Virginmedia staff because they were not they were all NTL employees as it states in every single article about that case.

But the real reason you opened the thread with its original title was to make people think it was another type of scam involving Virginmedia staff until they clicked the link.

Those people were rightfully prosecuted because scams such as this increase my insurance premiums.

You will find that some people will just use this as another reason to say things about members of staff and that we are all tarred with the same brush, but that is exactly what you wanted to happen.

We the Virginmedia Staff that offer help on here find that when people post threads such as this intentionally to mislead people then begin to wonder why do we bother any more.

[Kellargh]

I've lost any et all respect for you Gary L. That is all I have to say.

[Ignitionnet]

The indignation from VM employees at being associated with ntl amuses me, given the very public history.

People and VM staff may not like what they did but you can't simply pretend that every employee of ntl and Telewest suddenly became a paragon of virtue when they were given a red uniform, don't be so sensitive guys it's pretty thin-skinned and a little weird to be so offended by such things. These guys had they not been caught would be working for VM now most likely.

They're a cable company, they are a cold blooded profit making machine that couldn't give two hoots about most of their employees, they pay your salary, or in the case of the Swansea guys they pay IBM to pay your salaries, nothing more.

[Matty_]

This is similar to that one reported a bit ago when that guy was disconnecting the brake lights and was getting people to crash into the back of him (in other people`s cars). That place was only 2 minutes from where i live and after it was reported i recalled clocking several "incidents" there.
Lets hope the more they catch these crooks the cheaper our insurance will be, can`t see it though mine`s just gone up from £460 to £516, Robbing gits!

[papa smurf]

lets not shoot the messenger

i work for vm and i don't feel offended by Garry L, its only a topic up for discussion .