Should Corporal Punishment Be Brought Back ?

Stuartbe · 21-02-2004, 15:43

Kids can get away with what ever they want these days. When I was in junior school I spent some time at a private school that still used the cane in extreem cases. My grades were better and there was little to no bullying in that school.

Should it be brought back ?

Jerrek · 21-02-2004, 15:47

Absolutely. It is a great way to enforce discipline.

Stuartbe · 21-02-2004, 15:51

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Originally Posted by Jerrek

Absolutely. It is a great way to enforce discipline.

But should it be used by Teachers or by the parents ?

In the school I was at the headmaster had to speak to the parents first !

Bifta · 21-02-2004, 15:53

Adult beating defenseless child .. yes, what a great example that'll set. Stuart, do you have children? If so, would you consider caning them when they misbehaved? I don't know any parents that would.

Ramrod · 21-02-2004, 15:59

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/593949.stm
I am in two minds about it. I don't like it. If it is used it should only be used as a last resort, when all other methods of control have failed and then only for particularly bad actions or dangerous actions.

21-02-2004, 16:01

Hmm...

Reads the INLA "punishment beatings" thread.

Reads this thread...

Compare and contrast...

(And before anyone says that Corporal Punishment doesn't involve physical damage, I'd point out it's a matter of *scale* and *attitude* not details)

Flubflow · 21-02-2004, 16:03

No.
It's just a form of legalised child abuse.

Ramrod · 21-02-2004, 16:09

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Originally Posted by Graham

Compare and contrast...

(And before anyone says that Corporal Punishment doesn't involve physical damage, I'd point out it's a matter of *scale* and *attitude* not details)

But you cannot dismiss the differences in scale, they are vast.
Anyway, why are you speaking up against spanking?

aliferste · 21-02-2004, 16:13

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Originally Posted by Bifta

Adult beating defenseless child .. yes, what a great example that'll set.

Cant really say it better than that to be honest!

aliferste · 21-02-2004, 16:17

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Originally Posted by stuartbe

Kids can get away with what ever they want these days. When I was in junior school I spent some time at a private school that still used the cane in extreem cases. My grades were better and there was little to no bullying in that school.

A private school eh? sounds posh.....you might find that there was no bullying as the kids were privaliged and knew it. Grades were better as the quality of teaching was better, probably no crowded classrooms there eh....no teacher being underpaid getting exasperated and using that DAMN cane to get some order...kids parents spending out cash for them to go to school you would get merry hell if they found out they were messing about!

Ramrod · 21-02-2004, 16:24

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Originally Posted by aliferste

A private school eh? sounds posh.....you might find that there was no bullying as the kids were privaliged and knew it. Grades were better as the quality of teaching was better, probably no crowded classrooms there eh....no teacher being underpaid getting exasperated and using that DAMN cane to get some order...kids parents spending out cash for them to go to school you would get merry hell if they found out they were messing about!

So whats your solution to the dicipline problem then?

Flubflow · 21-02-2004, 16:26

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Originally Posted by Graham

Hmm...

Reads the INLA "punishment beatings" thread.

Reads this thread...

Compare and contrast...

(And before anyone says that Corporal Punishment doesn't involve physical damage, I'd point out it's a matter of *scale* and *attitude* not details)

Also compare and contrast with the Police Brutality thread.
As adults we do not expect to be beaten up by a cop so we should certainly not expect our children (who have often yet to learn common sense etc) to be beaten up by their teachers. Trying to beat common sense and respect into children in schools has never worked and never will.

Bifta · 21-02-2004, 16:26

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Originally Posted by Ramrod

So whats your solution to the dicipline problem then?

Regardless of his solution, you can't just beat people into behaving themselves, couldn't help noticing how everyone was up in arms about coppers doing it in a different thread.

edit: beaten to it (no pun intended)

paulyoung666 · 21-02-2004, 16:31

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Originally Posted by stuartbe

Kids can get away with what ever they want these days. When I was in junior school I spent some time at a private school that still used the cane in extreem cases. My grades were better and there was little to no bullying in that school.

Should it be brought back ?

yes , as long as it is properly done , then yes , i will go and get me nomex on

Flubflow · 21-02-2004, 16:39

The best solution to a problem is often never the first one you think of.
I know that some schoolkids act like animals sometimes but I don't think that cattle-prodding them through their education is going to work.