New XXL 50Mbps STM

[telfordcable]

VM are to release new STM on XXL 50Mbps pretty soon here:

Current - Subscriber Traffic Management details
Broadband size L XL XXL
Downstream Speed 10 Mb 20 Mb 50 Mb
Upstream speed 512 Kb 768 Kb 1536 Kb
Evening peak time management (7 Days a week)
Downstream
When does it apply? 4pm until 9pm
Threshold 1200 MB 3000 MB TBA
Percentage throttled (Up & Down) 75 % 75 % TBA
Throttle duration 5 Hours
Upstream
When does it apply? 3pm until 8pm
Threshold 700 MB 1400 MB TBA
Percentage throttled (Up & Down) 75 % 75 % TBA
Throttle duration 5 Hours
Daytime management (7 days a week)
Downstream
When does it apply? 10am until 3pm
Threshold 2400 MB 6000 MB TBA
Percentage throttled (Up & Down) 75 % 75 % TBA
Throttle duration 5 Hours

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TRIAL - Subscriber Traffic Management details
Broadband size L XL XXL
Downstream Speed 10 Mb 20 Mb 50 Mb
Upstream speed 512 Kb 768 Kb 1536 Kb
Weekday peak time management (Monday to Friday)
Downstream
When does it apply? 4pm until 9pm
Threshold 1200 MB 3000 MB TBA
Percentage throttled (Up & Down) 75 % 75 % TBA
Throttle duration Up to 7hrs (Released at 11pm)
Upstream
When does it apply? 3pm until 8pm
Threshold 700 MB 1400 MB TBA
Percentage throttled (Up & Down) 75 % 75 % TBA
Throttle duration Up to 7hrs (Released at 11pm)
Weekend peak time management (Saturday & Sunday)
Downstream
When does it apply? 11am until 9pm
Threshold 3000 MB 7500 MB TBA
Percentage throttled (Up & Down) 75 % 75 % TBA
Throttle duration Up to 10hrs (Released at 11pm)
Upstream
When does it apply? 10am until 8pm
Threshold 1400 MB 2800 MB TBA
Percentage throttled (Up & Down) 75 % 75 % TBA
Throttle duration Up to 10hrs (Released at 11pm)

Note: Virgin Media plans to introduce application-specific restrictions this year (2009) to target BitTorrent users. Such a move would mark a significant departure from its current policy of application-agnostic throttling.

[Ignitionnet]

Yes, we knew it was coming the boss said so a few months ago, though someone really needs to tell the person making that page that it's actually 53Mbit downstream and 1750kbit upstream.

Nothing in there about Broadband M, uplifted 2Mbit either which is odd.

Do you have the original source for this information? The public facing page has none.

[telfordcable]

Found it under here: http://abcde.co.uk/virginmedia/broadband-faq.html#q48

I think VM are so stupid to put STM on it because I remember Neil, the boss say there will be no STM on our superfast 50Mbps because you pay for the premium service ! So, if the STM come in, then it a big blow for many of them who fork out £50 a month for rubbish and misleading superfast of premium service. This is totally wrong !

[Ignitionnet]

Originally Posted by telfordcable

Found it under here: http://abcde.co.uk/virginmedia/broadband-faq.html#q48

I think VM are so stupid to put STM on it because I remember Neil, the boss say there will be no STM on our superfast 50Mbps because you pay for the premium service ! So, if the STM come in, then it a big blow for many of them who fork out £50 a month for rubbish and misleading superfast of premium service. This is totally wrong !

That's not an official page, it's maintained by someone with no knowledge of VM's future policies. XXL and 'TBA' have been listed on there ever since the launch of the product, it's in no way indicative that 50Mbit STM is coming 'soon' or when it is coming.

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Originally Posted by telfordcable

I think VM are so stupid to put STM on it because I remember Neil, the boss say there will be no STM on our superfast 50Mbps because you pay for the premium service !

Neil Berkett specifically said that there would be restrictions on the 50Mbit once the rollout was complete. It's not a premium price, 35GBP is not massively expensive relative to the other tiers which partly explains its' rubbish upstream.

[telfordcable]

Originally Posted by Broadbandings

That's not an official page, it's maintained by someone with no knowledge of VM's future policies. XXL and 'TBA' have been listed on there ever since the launch of the product, it's in no way indicative that 50Mbit STM is coming 'soon' or when it is coming.

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Neil Berkett specifically said that there would be restrictions on the 50Mbit once the rollout was complete. It's not a premium price, 35GBP is not massively expensive relative to the other tiers which partly explains its' rubbish upstream.

Ok fair enough, look like my area will the last one of the roll out completed before they put me on 50Mbps STM probably a week after completed roll out. The rest who had 50Mbps can enjoy non-stm for now until the completed in the summer 2009.

How come you metion £35 a month for 50Mbps ?

Can we have (speculative) appended to the title please?

[telfordcable]

Maybe Neil Berkett will going to relax some of STM soon after the roll out completed by giving the customers more usage allowance and reduce the time of STM on XL and XXL ?

[Ignitionnet]

Originally Posted by telfordcable

Ok fair enough, look like my area will the last one of the roll out completed before they put me on 50Mbps STM probably a week after completed roll out. The rest who had 50Mbps can enjoy non-stm for now until the completed in the summer 2009.

How come you metion £35 a month for 50Mbps ?

Loads of areas yet to run, nothing to suggest yours will be the last.

My area was supposed to get the new equipment nearly a month ago though there are a few issues, the access network here struggles to maintain a very conservative upstream standard, the DOCSIS 3 recombining would cause nightmares.

---------- Post added at 17:28 ---------- Previous post was at 17:24 ----------

Originally Posted by telfordcable

Maybe Neil Berkett will going to relax some of STM soon after the roll out completed by giving the customers more usage allowance and reduce the time of STM on XL and XXL ?

He personally won't do anything, whoever makes these decisions will. These decisions are based on usage patterns on the network, VM will offer as small an allowance as they can while staying inside that 5% of customers over the entire network simultaneously STM'd.

[Peter_]

Dated 4th March and only posted on someone's website whose name is at the bottom of the page and as that person regularly posts on Digitalspy I find it strange nothing has been posted there either.

So as yet uncorroborated supposition with no official links to Virginmedia.

[Toto]

She is a regular on the VM newsgroup feeds too, well liked apparently.

[BenMcr]

Originally Posted by telfordcable

How come you metion £35 a month for 50Mbps ?

Because XXL with a phoneline is £46 is why

Take away £11 phoneline rental = £35

[Ignitionnet]

Originally Posted by Toto

She is a regular on the VM newsgroup feeds too, well liked apparently.

'Annie' hasn't posted on there in a long time, ever since he/she moved to Be.

[Toto]

Originally Posted by Broadbandings

'Annie' hasn't posted on there in a long time, ever since he/she moved to Be.

OK, she "was" a regular.

[broadbandking]

Originally Posted by telfordcable

Ok fair enough, look like my area will the last one of the roll out completed before they put me on 50Mbps STM probably a week after completed roll out. The rest who had 50Mbps can enjoy non-stm for now until the completed in the summer 2009.

How come you metion £35 a month for 50Mbps ?

I am enjoying it thank you

[Welshchris]

i have seen so many people leave Virgin for other ISPs because of this STM and usually for Sky who doesnt offer any sort of STM on their higher packages. Admittingly its slower than Virgin being an upto 16mb service but from what have heard from many people its reliable and faster than VM 10mb and only costing £10 per month if u have sky TV and talk.
My sister gets between 9-12mb almost all the time for example with sky where on VM she was fed up of being STM because my nephew plays online games.