Credit Crunch to hit Pay TV

[LondonRoad]

Not suprising really, but according to this report things are going to get tougher for VM and Sky next year.

http://www.brandrepublic.com/News/85...ending-pay-TV/

Originally Posted by harmitage

Not suprising really, but according to this report things are going to get tougher for VM and Sky next year.

http://www.brandrepublic.com/News/85...ending-pay-TV/

Not too sure about this one myself,i think probably the first thing people will cut from their budgets will be eating out in my view,i think things will get tougher for sky/vm, but people will not give up their broadband,tv phone so easily as they are very inbuilt into their lives,if you say shell out for sky sports at £19 per month that can be very cost effective in comparison with going to football/cricket matches,i think people will give up going to grounds,say at £40 per ticket, whilst retaining live coverage of sport in thier homes.

I think people could downgrade which will hit profits,but overall i think sky/vm are reasonably well insulated,unless the credit situation has a bigger impact then we think on jobs/or the economy.

[SB_07]

I think people are going to stay home more in the current climate which will of course mean watching more TV, so i think they'll be fine.

Yeah what he said

In fact they might stay at home sooooooooooo much they might even increase the services

[spiderplant]

Isn't that what the survey found?

"According to the online survey of a representative sample group of 1,022 UK adults in August, 82% of consumers plan spend at least as much as they currently do on TV services in the next 12 months, and a whopping 94% are considering signing up to additional services, such as movie and sports channels."

I love stats.

Originally Posted by spiderplant

Isn't that what the survey found?

"According to the online survey of a representative sample group of 1,022 UK adults in August, 82% of consumers plan spend at least as much as they currently do on TV services in the next 12 months, and a whopping 94% are considering signing up to additional services, such as movie and sports channels."

I love stats.

lol I love stats too,particularly when surveys by one company find one result ,whilst another company finds something completely different! Or in the best case senario one company contadicts their own survey, when the results seem to contradict their headlines.

All down to the phrasing of the questions really,i tend not to believe many of them to be honest.

Originally Posted by richard1960

lol I love stats too,particularly when surveys by one company find one result ,whilst another company finds something completely different! ...

Stats can prove anything you want them to - you must of heard the phrase

"Theres Lies....Damned Lies..... and then Statistics"

[spiderplant]

The BBC Magazine had an excellent series of articles on stats and journalism recently. Well worth a read.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/7542886.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/7554022.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/7568929.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/7581120.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/7592579.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/7605118.stm

Originally Posted by spiderplant

The BBC Magazine had an excellent series of articles on stats and journalism recently. Well worth a read.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/7542886.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/7554022.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/7568929.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/7581120.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/7592579.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/7605118.stm

Thanks for those when i get a minute i will browse them,spiderplant.

[Martyn]

first thing i would cut off is my tele, i very rarely watch any other channel other then sky one... i can live with out that.. and watch the freeview channels... theres tons of things online to watch tele... 4OD, and even a bbc online player... and i think people will down grade alot of there services, especially if there not getting what they paid for such as internet speeds etc etc..

[mertle]

Well not really a suprise and maybe the first signs is the barb figures they show significant surgence in terestial figures.

http://www.barb.co.uk/viewingsummary...viewingsummary


The only channels who seem afloat are ones on freeview even SKy gettin g little bit of hit with SKy Sports dropping in numbers and Sky sports news depsite it being a freeview channel. Although this maybe down to people getting ready not having it as believe its going off air.

Thing is if people believe the best channels are on freeview and what Sky and virgin offer is not value for money then sure Both during credit crunch will lose.

Then there is freesat which equally good option.

[m419]

No I predicted this a while back, look back at the at the early 1990's, nobody was interested in pay tv because it was too expensive,nobody had the money!

Furthermore, peoples income is going down and everyone is having to cut back on luxuaries such as TV. People will start to downgrade TV packages and remove Sky premium channels which means less revenue for the firms.

Bolton Cable Vision which covered Bolton,Blackburn and Darwen had around just under 5,000 subscribers in 1990. Nynex took over and that hardly changed, then Nynex expanding the network to nearly every street and also launched the phone service in 1994, things then started to change and more subscribers decided to join because peoples income was getting more stable and the offers and promotions and cheaper-than-BT offers were very attractive back then. 1996 was another year when a whole big bundle of TV channels were launched and that also dragged in the customers. 1997 saw the merger of Nynex with Cable and Wireless, more customers joined as Advertising of the service was broadcasted over TV, however thats where it went downhill as Cable and Wireless cut back on investments and the service became shabby and then piled it all onto NTL.

All I can remember being on Cable TV in 1994/5 was:

BBC1
BBC 2
ITV
Channel 4
UK Living
UK Gold
The family channel (Now Challenge TV)
The parliamentary channel (Now BBC Parliament)
BBC News 24
TCC (Now Trouble)
Bravo???
Carlton select
Carlton food network ???
Sci-fi???
MTV
Sky premier
Sky Max
Sky cinema
Sky one
Sky two???

Not very attractive eh???

Then in 1997:
BBC1
BBC2
ITV
Channel 4
Channel 5
Channel One (Local News channel for London and Merseyside)
UK Gold
Living
Bravo
Trouble
Carlton Select
Carlton Food Network
Sky One
Sky News
CNN
Bloomberg
BBC News 24
Euronews
The Box
MTV
VH1
Nickelodeon
Challenge TV
TV Travel shop
Tara TV
Cartoon network
TNT Movies
Live TV
Sky Premier
Sky Max
Sky Cinema
Sky Sports 1,2 and 3
The Parliamentary channel
Sci-Fi
RTL
Rai-Uno
CNBC
Hellenic TV
TV5
QVC
Granada plus
Granada Men and Motors
Paramount comedy
Performance channel
Eurosport
Fox Kids
Disney channel
Television X
Adult Channel

Other channels:

ITV 2 launched in 1998
Playboy launched in 1998
Film 4 launched in 1998
Carlton Cinema launched in 1999

And the telephone service offered something like this:

Local calls: 3p per minute/off peak 1p per minute
National calls: 4p per minute,3p off peak
Local cable calls: Free at evenings/weekends
Calling features: £1 each per month
Line rental: £6 per month with Cable TV
Top Cable TV package: £15 per month

So, Top Cable package and phone line rental: £21 per month! Good value!

Now its £22 per month for the TV alone!