Postal Service And System So Pathetic

[Arthurgray50@blu]

Over the years, my sore points for the Royal and post office services has gone down so far, l have just give up as a customer, if is not bad enough that l get more mail delivered through my letterbox, for other people, just makes me wonder if l get the mail that is mine, now they are claiming to save money they are doing away with Saturday deliveries, they are now charging different prices for postal service, the 2nd class stamp is now a joke, as it takes a week to deliver a letter of Ist and Second class, and now we have the closures of post offices up and down the country, l live very near Hounslow, and the post office inside WH Smith, is on the Ist floor, so what about the lifts, that cannot take the pressure, what about the elderly, my local postmaster, was in tears, as he is being forced to close in June, maybe if they didn't pay themself outrageous wages, l read that one director pays himself £150.000 per year, how do these elderly people plus the younger generation who have ill health manage to get up there, l feel sorry for the postman, who take the rap for the pathetic way the postal services are run this country, and yet they have this advert on TV saying what they do, just pathetic.

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

Over the years, my sore points for the Royal and post office services has gone down so far, l have just give up as a customer, if is not bad enough that l get more mail delivered through my letterbox, for other people, just makes me wonder if l get the mail that is mine, now they are claiming to save money they are doing away with Saturday deliveries, they are now charging different prices for postal service, the 2nd class stamp is now a joke, as it takes a week to deliver a letter of Ist and Second class, and now we have the closures of post offices up and down the country, l live very near Hounslow, and the post office inside WH Smith, is on the Ist floor, so what about the lifts, that cannot take the pressure, what about the elderly, my local postmaster, was in tears, as he is being forced to close in June, maybe if they didn't pay themself outrageous wages, l read that one director pays himself £150.000 per year, how do these elderly people plus the younger generation who have ill health manage to get up there, l feel sorry for the postman, who take the rap for the pathetic way the postal services are run this country, and yet they have this advert on TV saying what they do, just pathetic.

Arthur, when in doubt, use facts.

1) Royal Mail do not want to cancel Saturday deliveries, they are strongly against it - it was PostComm, the regulator who mooted it (and have since dropped it) Telegraph
"A spokesman said: "Royal Mail is dismayed that Postcomm is considering adverse changes including cutting deliveries on a Saturday and reducing our first class quality of service targets.""

2) Whilst I agree it is wrong for so many post offices to close, you can't really blame them for the lifts in WH Smith, can you?

[Arthurgray50@blu]

Hi foreverwar, it is always nice, when l hear from you, as we have such pleasant conversation, over the years, the postal service has really gone down hill, when l was growing up as a kid, you could tell the time, by the postman coming down our road, we used to have sometimes, a wrongly delivered letter, yet now, it is endless, l contacted our local sorting office, when someone brought a very important letter for me, that was opened, and all they would say its was a new guy, and wasn't trained enough, the price of postage, has now gone up in many stages, there should be only one price, and that is it, l sent out a test letter, l live in Hounslow, it took SEVEN days for a first class letter, too travel half a mile up the road, now this is POOR, as for post office closures, this is very poor, these should all be on ground level, and should be larger, the post office in Hounslow, was that big, the queue inside, was about the size of a terminal, what l am saying people, who push pens around, should think about other people who cannot climb stairs, cannot move properly - and no l am not a postman.

I think the standard of the postal service has declined in recent years to the point if i get my mail by midday i count myself lucky. But it is not the fault of the postal workers by and large it is the fault of management that constantly pursue cost cutting beyond the point of reason.

[SMHarman]

and you wonder why. Postcomm has required RM to keep the universal service provision while letting other companies go in and take the profitable local delivery and business delivery in built up areas.
http://us.ft.com/ftgateway/superpage...value=postcomm

Originally Posted by FT.com

Royal Mail posts loss for letters service

By John Willman, Business Editor
Thursday May 8 2008 17:25
Royal Mail's letters business has plunged into a loss, as the number of items posted plummeted last year and private sector competitors continued to win contracts to collect and sort post for large mail users.

The state-owned former monopoly said the number of letters handled daily had fallen from 83m to 80m, with increasing use of the internet and other forms of communication such as text-messages replacing conventional mail.

The letters business had moved from an operating profit of £136m last year to a loss of £3m this year, with many customers trading down to cheaper services as stamp prices rose.

for full article follow link...

Do you really think it costs 36p to send a letter from Lands end to John O'Groats? Thats all RM get for it and with rising fuel prices and a large fixed cost base, after all you need a postie in John O'Groats whether he is delivering 1 letter or 1000 what did anyone think would happen if with deregulation.

Hey i agree i think it was stupid to open up the postal sector for multiple companys and was more then happy to keep royal mail as a monopoly. In fact i will go a step further i think any and all national infrastructure should be government owned and run it is a complete scandal that the water and energy in the UK is owned and run by anyone but the UK government. Telecommunications yep back to government control if labour announced that anytime soon i would start to support them more because if they can be run by private companys profitably then they damn well should be able to run at a profit for the government.

Mmmmmmm, BT did such a good job in eighties, didn't they?

And i said that where forever ??? they have been badly mismanaged in the past but i don't think it is right that major necessary infrastructure is owned by anyone but the government.

[dontpannic]

To be honest like the rest of this country its gone downhill. If it ain't broke don't fix it but it seems they are raising prices and closing offices. Sure makes you wonder - seems mighty strange that problems and prices raising seem to co-incide with the announcement that we're hosting the Olympics!

Originally Posted by RizzyKing

And i said that where forever ??? they have been badly mismanaged in the past but i don't think it is right that major necessary infrastructure is owned by anyone but the government.

Telecommunications yep back to government control

imho, if they go back to being owned / managed by the government, you end up with monolithic monopolies with the agility of an elephant, having to get all initiatives signed off by whoever is in post at the time, and having strategy changed monthly in response to the government of the day's crisis/spin (for example, NHS, Local Government, Education, etc ad nausem).

imho

[Escapee]

As I have stated before, my postal service has got very bad in the past few years. The house next door is situated off the road like mine and is empty. I get lots of the mail posted in my postbox because the postman is too lazy to deliver there.

Before I put the postbox at the bottom of my drive the postman would very often deliver mail to any of the terraced houses in the street instead of walking up my driveway, and sometimes I get post for one of the terraced houses at the far end of the street. I often come home from work when it's raining to find that my letters are soaking wet because the postman is lazy and leaves them half way out of the box. I wonder how many letters have been taken out of there, as I have had a fair amount of mail that has failed to be delivered.

I did a little excersize last year and sent myself 4 letters, and only 3 arrived.

The postal service is certainly not a patch on what it used to be, I can't put a guess on when it all went wrong but certainly 10 years ago I would of not had any complaints to mention.

[WHISTLED]

l read that one director pays himself £150.000 per year,

Not really much for a Director Arthur, there are are/were Sales Reps at VM earning almost as much.

l feel sorry for the postman, who take the rap for the pathetic way the postal services are run this country,

You just said that you question if you get your post and you get other peoples frequently... I would say thats the postmans fault not the management.

As far as I know I get all my post, I'm in my late 20s and ive never used a post office.. Never had parcels damaged. I dont have any compliant

Crimes like this also mess up the already messed up system Link

[Arthurgray50@blu]

Hi Whistled, Firstly, thank you for your comment, the directors that paid this amount of money, don't do anything, all they do is push pens around all day, VM Directors, probabely play golf all day, as they get a lot of grief from us.
Secondly, the postman, should be highly trained, so they don't make mistakes, but they do, l know some postman and they are great to get on with, but even they will say, that the postman who deliver the mail, don't get a lot of training, as the royal mail won't pay for it.

[tweetypie/8]

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

Over the years, my sore points for the Royal and post office services has gone down so far, l have just give up as a customer, if is not bad enough that l get more mail delivered through my letterbox, for other people, just makes me wonder if l get the mail that is mine, now they are claiming to save money they are doing away with Saturday deliveries, they are now charging different prices for postal service, the 2nd class stamp is now a joke, as it takes a week to deliver a letter of Ist and Second class, and now we have the closures of post offices up and down the country, l live very near Hounslow, and the post office inside WH Smith, is on the Ist floor, so what about the lifts, that cannot take the pressure, what about the elderly, my local postmaster, was in tears, as he is being forced to close in June, maybe if they didn't pay themself outrageous wages, l read that one director pays himself £150.000 per year, how do these elderly people plus the younger generation who have ill health manage to get up there, l feel sorry for the postman, who take the rap for the pathetic way the postal services are run this country, and yet they have this advert on TV saying what they do, just pathetic.

hi arthur i couldnt agree with you more,the postal service has gone down the tubes long ago,i myself have had 3 items lost in the past 2 months and imo its a case of sticky fingers,i have no faith in them and its near time they pulled their fingers out and got things sorted.