Nhs

Ramrod · 08-02-2004, 10:07

Interesting report. I don't know whether to laugh or cry.

paulyoung666 · 08-02-2004, 10:16

interesting reading , but ............... , from my own point of view i have had nothing but excellent care , recently i had an accident at work where my leg was crushed and the blood flow lost to the lower half of my leg , not very nice , i was in the operating theatre within 4 hours and the damage repaired , ok so i might be the lucky one but the care i got was nothing short of superb

Ramrod · 08-02-2004, 10:25

It still is the place I would go for life or death emergency care ('cos they usually pull together for that kind of thing) but the general standards are very poor. I have seen this many, many times.

08-02-2004, 10:32

In my dads case he dide not have a good time he had to have a operation on his arm the first one he had did not work the second time he went for another operation on the same arm the surgeon told him that from looking at his scars and reading his medical notes there was no way that they had done what they say they did ( the surgeon who operated on him the first was no longer there).

this time round they preped him ready for his op then they left him there for 2 hours when they came back they told him he could not have his op done today,
then they told him to go home and come back in 6 months he had already waited 18 months for this one, lets just say he was not very happy.

paulyoung666 · 08-02-2004, 10:46

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Originally Posted by smegs

In my dads case he dide not have a good time he had to have a operation on his arm the first one he had did not work the second time he went for another operation on the same arm the surgeon told him that from looking at his scars and reading his medical notes there was no way that they had done what they say they did ( the surgeon who operated on him the first was no longer there).

this time round they preped him ready for his op then they left him there for 2 hours when they came back they told him he could not have his op done today,
then they told him to go home and come back in 6 months he had already waited 18 months for this one, lets just say he was not very happy.

and there you have the flip side to my story

for him

Stuartbe · 08-02-2004, 10:57

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Originally Posted by paulyoung666

and there you have the flip side to my story

for him

I had good service from them when I smashed up my spine....

One thing Paul... Both our cases were emergencys !!! My father in laws was not - I think that is the difference that counts.

Bex · 08-02-2004, 10:58

when my nana was in hosptial we realised just how crap it was there...st peter's hospital in chertsey seems to be one of the worst hosptials around for making patients wait.... when i went in there i was left in a side room, on my todd for over an hour, in that time i saw one nurse, told a doctor would be coming round soon and left there...the things was the side room was not even a proper room, it was a bed shoved in where they kept all the needless etc..in short it was the stock room....i was 14 at the time and in a lot of pain was not impressed

my nana got a survey through from the hospital a few weeks ago asking what her stay was like, because my nan, for all intents and purposes, is loosing her mind, dad and i filled it in......and for filling it in you get a free packet of soap powder

Ramrod · 08-02-2004, 10:58

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Even your local corner store can sack someone incompetent. Not the NHS hospital. Political correctness, the power of the unions and centrally set targets take precedence over patientsÃƒÆ’Ã†â€™Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â¢ÃƒÆ’Ã‚Â¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…Â¡Ã ƒâ€šÃ‚Â¬ÃƒÆ’Ã‚Â¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…Â¾Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â¢ wellbeing. Their care is almost incidental

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Could she sack a porter or at least issue a reprimand? Daphne looked shocked: ÃƒÆ’Ã†â€™Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â¢ÃƒÆ’Ã‚Â¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…Â¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â¬ ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Â¦ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…â€œOh no, we canÃƒÆ’Ã†â€™Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â¢ÃƒÆ’Ã‚Â¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…Â¡Ãƒâ€šÃ ‚Â¬ÃƒÆ’Ã‚Â¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…Â¾Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â¢t get rid of porters. If they are no good, we send them on a training course

paulyoung666 · 08-02-2004, 11:01

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Originally Posted by stuartbe

I had good service from them when I smashed up my spine....

One thing Paul... Both our cases were emergencys !!! My father in laws was not - I think that is the difference that counts.

yep i would go along with that

Nikko · 08-02-2004, 12:01

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Originally Posted by bexy

my nana got a survey through from the hospital a few weeks ago asking what her stay was like, because my nan, for all intents and purposes, is loosing her mind, dad and i filled it in......and for filling it in you get a free packet of soap powder

Looks like they are cleaning up their act then....

Charlie_Bubble · 08-02-2004, 12:24

About 4 years ago I had an accident and cut 2 tendons and a nerve in my right arm. the cut was about 3 inches long and down to the bone and a lot of blood was coming out. I was rushed to St Peters in Cherstey in an ambulance. I was made to wait for about 2 hours in a cubicle while they tried to put some motorcyclist's shoulder back into the socket in the next cubicle. Eventually, two doctors came in to see me. By this time the bleeding had stopped and the pain had subsided. They bent my arm right back to have a look, causing me extreme pain and the blood to start again. They told me it looked serious and they couldn't do anything for me, but would get me an appointment with Chelsea and Westminster. The wound was dressed and I was sent home for the night with a few painkillers. The next day I had to get the train into Waterloo and then a Tube over to chelsea and Westminster. the people there in the ward that actually operated on my arm were fantastic, but others in the hospital certainly weren't. I was sat waiting for in x-ray for an hour. They managed to start the whole thing bleeding again by moving it round while doing the x-ray and then I was sat waiting again for another hour in the same waiting room for the x-ray, with my arm bleeding and only the bandages I had come in with to stop it.

In my opinion the NHS is hit and miss. You can get a good department in a bad hospital and bad departments in good hospitals. I also don't agree that they treat all emergencies well. How many times have you heard reports of someone being sent home from hospital with some painkillers only to die at home from something obvious that the hospital shouldn't have missed.

Something needs to be done about it soon. Blair came in with big promises about how he was going to sort out crime, education, the NHS etc. All I see is a lot more money being spent for no real improvement.

Bex · 08-02-2004, 12:25

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Originally Posted by Nikko

Looks like they are cleaning up their act then....

that's ironic considering the hosptial has a bad rating due to the fact that when it was investigated it was found that dirty needles where disposed of properly, the floors in the examination areas weren';t clean and nor were the wards

paulyoung666 · 08-02-2004, 12:34

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Originally Posted by Charlie_Bubble

About 4 years ago I had an accident and cut 3 tendons and a nerve in my right arm. the cut was about 3 inches long and down to the bone and a lot of blood was coming out. I was rushed to St Peters in Cherstey in an ambulance. I was made to wait for about 2 hours in a cubicle while they tried to put some motorcyclist's shoulder back into the socket in the next cubicle. Eventually, two doctors came in to see me. By this time the bleeding had stopped and the pain had subsided. They bent my arm right back to have a look, causing me extreme pain and the blood to start again. They told me it looked serious and they couldn't do anything for me, but would get me an appointment with Chelsea and Westminster. The wound was dressed and I was sent home for the night with a few painkillers. The next day I had to get the train into Waterloo and then a Tube over to chelsea and Westminster. the people there in the ward that actually operated on my arm were fantastic, but others in the hospital certainly weren't. I was sat waiting for in x-ray for an hour. They managed to start the whole thing bleeding again by moving it round while doing the x-ray and then I was sat waiting again for another hour in the same waiting room for the x-ray, with my arm bleeding and only the bandages I had come in with to stop it.

In my opinion the NHS is hit and miss. You can get a good department in a bad hospital and bad departments in good hospitals. I also don't agree that they treat all emergencies well. How many times have you heard reports of someone being sent home from hospital with some painkillers only to die at home from something obvious that the hospital shouldn't have missed.

Something needs to be done about it soon. Blair came in with big promises about how he was going to sort out crime, education, the NHS etc. All I see is a lot more money being spent for no real improvement.

that is truly shocking , so i assume you made all the right noises as regards complaints , the only way anything will be improved is by ppl complaining about it , isnt it , i am not saying you didnt complain , bbut if you didnt , then you have potentially missed the chance to make a difference , btw , i hope your arm is ok now

Charlie_Bubble · 08-02-2004, 12:50

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Originally Posted by paulyoung666

that is truly shocking , so i assume you made all the right noises as regards complaints , the only way anything will be improved is by ppl complaining about it , isnt it , i am not saying you didnt complain , bbut if you didnt , then you have potentially missed the chance to make a difference , btw , i hope your arm is ok now

Yeah, wrote a letter. Got the usual, busy hospital, undergoing reviews cr@p back. I think complaints to things like hospitals are like water off a ducks back. They trundle on regardless. There was a documentary about St. Peters on tv a couple of years ago and a big part of their problem apparently is that they have so many agency nurses they spend a large part of their budget on them and they are not even allowed to do things like give injections etc.

Yeah, the arm is ok now. The nerve never repaired itself properly, but I was warned about that and so I have dull feelings in my little finger, which makes cutting that nail tricky!!

paulyoung666 · 08-02-2004, 12:54

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Originally Posted by Charlie_Bubble

Yeah, wrote a letter. Got the usual, busy hospital, undergoing reviews cr@p back. I think complaints to things like hospitals are like water off a ducks back. They trundle on regardless. There was a documentary about St. Peters on tv a couple of years ago and a big part of their problem apparently is that they have so many agency nurses they spend a large part of their budget on them and they are not even allowed to do things like give injections etc.

Yeah, the arm is ok now. The nerve never repaired itself properly, but I was warned about that and so I have dull feelings in my little finger, which makes cutting that nail tricky!!

that again is shocking , it just dont make sense to me when you hear how much agency nurses are on , surely the logical thing to do would be to train more nurses and pay them a decent wage , ahhhhhhhhhhh , hang on , i wonder if president blair wants rid of the nhs