15-10-2005, 17:55
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The Tory Leadership
This is a topic about David Cameron, but it obviously extends to the whole contest. Now, I dont think I would vote for the Torys next time, and i want Ken Clake to win the leadership.
However, Who else thinks the David Cameron 'drugs' issue is a joke  He should not have to answer questions about his personal life years ago! I have a lot of respect for him, his refusal to answer the question is completely right in my view. The public have no right to know about if he smoked a join in uni or if a member of his family had a heroin problem.
Good on ya David
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15-10-2005, 18:04
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Re: The Tory Leadership
We seem to have a Tory Leadership contest almost everyday.
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15-10-2005, 18:07
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Re: The Tory Leadership
I used to have respect for tony blair... But for years now have voted non of the above!
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15-10-2005, 18:14
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Re: The Tory Leadership
Trouble is he is a thoroughly nice chap and is a very good constituency MP (we should get the zebra crossing in December rather than 'maybe' sometime after January if funds permitted because of DC (just need to push him a little harder for a light controlled crossing)). I think they are trying too hard to find something bad about him as he otherwise would not be that newsworthy.
Politically I would prefer David Davis as he would be another loser for the PM's post (and would not make it so hard for me to get re-elected in 2007). Ken Clarke might actually win back the tory vote whereas David Cameron is only in his second term of office (admittedly it's one of the safer tory seats) and could really do with another election under his belt before going for party leadership.
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15-10-2005, 19:12
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Re: The Tory Leadership
Ken Clarke is a joke and if he wins we are stuck with a Labour government...unless you all vote bleeding heart liberal next time.
If the Tories really want to win then they need to do what the Labour party did and find a younger,newer leader with a new way of attracting old and new voters.Maybe they should go more to the left than labour currently are.
Frankly I loathe all MP's and politicians.They all lie and would sell their eldest born to the devil to be in power.
However it is our own fault..who in their right mind would want to try and run the country whilst being minutely inspected by the press about every aspect of your life including your family.It's fair enough to pick on a man or woman for doing a crap job but when they try at all stages to drag your wife,husband,children,granny,uncle into the political arena it is far too intrusive.  This is why we never get good honest MP's representing us.Anyone who cares about their nearest and dearest wouldn't want to put them through such crap.
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15-10-2005, 19:21
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Re: The Tory Leadership
I have seen most of the contenders' speeches at the party conference on BBC online and none of them was charismatic and inspiring as David Cameron.
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15-10-2005, 20:05
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Re: The Tory Leadership
IMHO who cares who the tories pick to lose the next election
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15-10-2005, 20:14
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Re: The Tory Leadership
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Originally Posted by david.ewles
IMHO who cares who the tories pick to lose the next election
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Actually I do, simply because I don't want another five years of Blair and maybe there's a chance of getting shot of him *and* the Tories and seeing an alternative to the same old nonsense over again.
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15-10-2005, 20:27
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Re: The Tory Leadership
the trouble is that the tories have changed their leader more times than i've had hot dinners.
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15-10-2005, 20:43
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Re: The Tory Leadership
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Actually I do, simply because I don't want another five years of Blair and maybe there's a chance of getting shot of him *and* the Tories and seeing an alternative to the same old nonsense over again.
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Well i don't mind the poodle getting the bullet. But i for one don't want the tree hug-in loony libs in charge of this country's defence. Rolling over and giving in to the first problem to face us would not go down lightly with me.
The raving loony monster party has more respect as far as i am concerned that the lib dems.
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15-10-2005, 20:56
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Re: The Tory Leadership
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Originally Posted by Damien
The public have no right to know about if he smoked a join in uni or if a member of his family had a heroin problem.
Good on ya David 
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It wasn't just cannabis, he refused to answer about his usage of Class A drugs also.
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15-10-2005, 21:35
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Re: The Tory Leadership
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Originally Posted by Macca371
It wasn't just cannabis, he refused to answer about his usage of Class A drugs also.
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Well yeah
Otherwises its a case of:
"Did you take Class A drugs..."
"No"
"Did you take Class B?.."
"No"
"Did you take Class C?.."
"err, well someones personal life is thier personal life and so forth"
If you refuse to answer a question then you refuse to answer all related questions. Its the principle as well, we expect them to be perfect but they are not, they are human. Its not our business what he did in Uni, its our business what he does while MP in his work. Anything else I dont care about, he could have had a thing for donkey porn, as long as he runs his office ok then i dont care
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15-10-2005, 21:38
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Re: The Tory Leadership
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Originally Posted by Damien
Well yeah
Otherwises its a case of:
"Did you take Class A drugs..."
"No"
"Did you take Class B?.."
"No"
"Did you take Class C?.."
"err, well someones personal life is thier personal life and so forth"
If you refuse to answer a question then you refuse to answer all related questions. Its the principle as well, we expect them to be perfect but they are not, they are human. Its not our business what he did in Uni, its our business what he does while MP in his work. Anything else I dont care about, he could have had a thing for donkey porn, as long as he runs his office ok then i dont care
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Not quite, I think Class A drugs is a different matter to harmless cannabis, which I'm sure most people have tried and many use on a regular basis.
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15-10-2005, 21:44
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Re: The Tory Leadership
I think he didnt want to answer ANY questions about it. Fair enough
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15-10-2005, 22:19
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Re: The Tory Leadership
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Originally Posted by Bill C
i for one don't want the tree hug-in loony libs in charge of this country's defence. Rolling over and giving in to the first problem to face us would not go down lightly with me.
The raving loony monster party has more respect as far as i am concerned that the lib dems.
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It's nice to see you have an open minded viewpoint and have taken the time to actually look at the policies and ideals of the Lib Dems instead of relying on prejudice and mis-information
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