What right about UK's voting system

[Itshim]

Great voting system. Just an illustration, and politicians say we have a mandate . And. l mean all parties

In Staffordshire, Reform won 72% of the seats on 41% of the vote. In Kent, 37% of the vote delivered it 70% of the seats, while in Derbyshire the same share was rewarded with 66% of all the councillors.

[Sephiroth]

Turnout plays a big hand in this. I favour the Australian system of mandatory voting - you can spoil your ballot if you want.

[Mr K]

Did folks complain about our system when it unfairly hit parties like the Lib Dems and Greens? I'm all for PR but I'm wary of recent converts, as it now suits them.

We could also try and make it easier to vote instead of harder. E.g. voting on weekends, whats so vital about Thursdays? And online voting.

Originally Posted by Mr K

We could also try and make it easier to vote instead of harder.

It was easier, then they forced everyone to show ID.

Online voting would be a plus, you have been able to register online for years, yet not vote online.

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

Turnout plays a big hand in this. I favour the Australian system of mandatory voting - you can spoil your ballot if you want.

Yes nothing reeks of democracy more than forcing people to vote, I would be in favour of incentives to vote, like higher or lower council tax depending on if you vote, we could call it the democracy rebate or we could adopt one of Australia's incentives, the democracy sausage

Originally Posted by Mr K

Did folks complain about our system when it unfairly hit parties like the Lib Dems and Greens? I'm all for PR but I'm wary of recent converts, as it now suits them.

We could also try and make it easier to vote instead of harder. E.g. voting on weekends, whats so vital about Thursdays? And online voting.

Long been of favour of pr, we had our chance with it but the public knew best and bought into the main parties wishes to maintain the status quo

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

Yes nothing reeks of democracy more than forcing people to vote, I would be in favour of incentives to vote, like higher or lower council tax depending on if you vote, we could call it the democracy rebate or we could adopt one of Australia's incentives, the democracy sausage



Long been of favour of pr, we had our chance with it but the public knew best and bought into the main parties wishes to maintain the status quo

Not the "democracy sausage"? Labour must not kill the "democracy sausage".

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

Not the "democracy sausage"? Labour must not kill the "democracy sausage".

If you get up early you can have a democracy bacon and egg roll or even a democracy cake according to my Aussie chum

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

If you get up early you can have a democracy bacon and egg roll or even a democracy cake according to my Aussie chum

I was just discussing this with my Australia resident son.
I like a humble bacon sandwich, preferably on New York Rye - but white bread will do fine. Also I prefer unsmoked (less salty) bacon. When I was there last year, they did indeed try to press on me an egg & bacon roll. Ugh; why would I want that? Eventually I got a proper bacon sandwich - except they couldn't cope with it not in a roll; so the bacon was on a plate and the bread next to it with a butter patty for me to do the rest.

This is heathen stuff unlike their democratic voting system which guarantees turnout and accurate judgement of the political temperature.

Btw, I didn't dare complain about the bacon "sandwich" lest I be branded a whinging POM in front of everyone at the East Hotel. I've promised my son the real thing, to be cooked in our Airbnb next October.

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

I was just discussing this with my Australia resident son.
I like a humble bacon sandwich, preferably on New York Rye - but white bread will do fine. Also I prefer unsmoked (less salty) bacon. When I was there last year, they did indeed try to press on me an egg & bacon roll. Ugh; why would I want that? Eventually I got a proper bacon sandwich - except they couldn't cope with it not in a roll; so the bacon was on a plate and the bread next to it with a butter patty for me to do the rest.

This is heathen stuff unlike their democratic voting system which guarantees turnout and accurate judgement of the political temperature.

Btw, I didn't dare complain about the bacon "sandwich" lest I be branded a whinging POM in front of everyone at the East Hotel. I've promised my son the real thing, to be cooked in our Airbnb next October.

"white will do"- unsmoked

brown bread -smoked bacon -slathered in butter -mug of tea


if we mess with the voting system we'll probably bugger it up

[Itshim]

My big bug is politicians saying people voted for our policies no they didn't most didn't want you !

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by Itshim

My big bug is politicians saying people voted for our policies no they didn't most didn't want you !

That brings us to the question of Farage's claim that Reform UK has a "mandate". Yet, it is obvious that theirs is a "protest vote". The only mandate they have to is to do well and succeed in 4 years' time.

However, below 50% turnout plays into the hands of Remainers, for example, who claimed that the majority of the electorate had not voted for Brexit.

Hence mandatory voting. Simples.

[mrmistoffelees]

Dogs at polling stations

/fin

[Pierre]

It’s not perfect by any means, for many your vote doesn’t count. (Although the six reform voters in Runcorn, is evidence that on occasion it does)

Brexit was democratic perfection, one person, one vote, and the vote counts.

How you can build that into a national result whilst maintaining regional representation is the trick. I don’t have the answer.

[GrimUpNorth]

It should be first past the post in parliament, and some form of proportional representation in the second house. The second house should have no appointed members or life peers etc and the election cycle of each house overlapping by half a term, so if parliamentary term is 5 years the second house elections are 2.5 years later.

[Itshim]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

That brings us to the question of Farage's claim that Reform UK has a "mandate". Yet, it is obvious that theirs is a "protest vote". The only mandate they have to is to do well and succeed in 4 years' time.

However, below 50% turnout plays into the hands of Remainers, for example, who claimed that the majority of the electorate had not voted for Brexit.

Hence mandatory voting. Simples.

Agreed the comment seems to applicable to all parties