Packed Airbus crashes at Tokyo airport

[SnoopZ]

Packed Airbus crashes at Tokyo airport and bursts into flames after hitting coastguard plane on runway.

All Airbus passengers evacuated, 5 dead on Coastguard plane, such a terrible start for Japan 2024 with the earthquake and now this.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-asia-67862184

Onboard
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ack-smoke.html

So with final approach and touchdown taking a minute or more there’s no way any other aircraft should have been on the runway. The recordings of conversations between ATC and the coastguard plane will be most revealing here. It would seem most likely that the wrong instruction has been given, or has been misheard.

The video on the BBC News site is pretty dramatic, its amazing all the passengers got off it safely. All the deaths were apparently from the Coastguard plane it collided with.

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by Paul

The video on the BBC News site is pretty dramatic, its amazing all the passengers got off it safely. All the deaths were apparently from the Coastguard plane it collided with.

Thing is, in these situations (and I’ve watched every episode of aircrash investigation, so I’m basically an expert &#128077

If people don’t panic, but move with purpose and speed, you can all disembark a jet liner very quickly.

Originally Posted by Pierre

Thing is, in these situations (and I’ve watched every episode of aircrash investigation, so I’m basically an expert ��)

If people don’t panic, but move with purpose and speed, you can all disembark a jet liner very quickly.

And they very much didn’t panic. I was actually quite annoyed with this evening’s BBC report, in which the breathless reporter trotted out a litany of boiler-plate phrases as if she hadn’t actually seen the footage she was voicing over. “There was chaos” she intoned, over pictures of people, clearly scared, nevertheless staying in their places as instructed until the plane was stopped and the slides were deployed. 400-odd people don’t escape a burning plane if there’s chaos.

I wonder what would have happened if that had been a Ryanair flight.

[jfman]

Originally Posted by Pierre

Thing is, in these situations (and I’ve watched every episode of aircrash investigation, so I’m basically an expert &#128077

If people don’t panic, but move with purpose and speed, you can all disembark a jet liner very quickly.

I did laugh out loud at the air crash investgation line.

Some reports I’d seen suggested the design of the A350 over and older plane helped, due to more carbon fibre materials holding out for longer.

Transcripts from the control tower are now available, which confirm that the small aircraft did not have permission to be on the runway, and the JAL Airbus did have permission to land. Hopefully there’s a surviving flight data recorder from the smaller plane which might give some clue as to why they thought they had clearance to go onto the runway. The pilot of that aircraft did survive, so in time he may be able to give an account of himself.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-67870119

[SnoopZ]

Originally Posted by Chris

Transcripts from the control tower are now available, which confirm that the small aircraft did not have permission to be on the runway, and the JAL Airbus did have permission to land. Hopefully there’s a surviving flight data recorder from the smaller plane which might give some clue as to why they thought they had clearance to go onto the runway. The pilot of that aircraft did survive, so in time he may be able to give an account of himself.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-67870119

The Captain of the Coastguard plane said he was given clearance even though air traffic control said they never gave it.

The transcripts appear to contradict the coastguard plane's captain - the only one of the six crew to survive - who told investigators he had been given permission to enter the runway which the JAL airliner was approaching.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-67874607

Well someone is wrong, the question seems to be who.

Originally Posted by SnoopZ

The Captain of the Coastguard plane said he was given clearance even though air traffic control said they never gave it.



https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-67874607

It will be important to try to get voice recordings from the coastguard plane. That should reveal whether there was an atmosphere of confusion in the cockpit that could have led to such a catastrophic error. They’ll also be looking at fatigue as a possible factor given that he was flying emergency supplies to the earthquake zone.

[Dude111]

Originally Posted by Paul

The video on the BBC News site is pretty dramatic, its amazing all the passengers got off it safely.

Yes they are quite lucky....

Very sad........