A-level and GCSE results fiasco.
17-08-2020, 12:56
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A-level and GCSE results fiasco.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-53804323
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Pressure is mounting on ministers to let teacher-assessed grades stand in England to avoid a second wave of exams chaos hitting GCSE results this week.
About 40% of A-Level results were downgraded after the exams regulator Ofqual used an algorithm based on schools' previous results.
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I think that this government really has to step up or be seen as the government that threw the pandemic exam group under the bus.I also foresee a whole age group most likely to put their future votes to another political party unless Boris and co address the situation in a timely manner.
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17-08-2020, 12:59
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Re: A-level and GCSE results fiasco.
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Originally Posted by Maggy
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-53804323
I think that this government really has to step up or be seen as the government that threw the pandemic exam group under the bus.I also foresee a whole age group most likely to put their future votes to another political party unless Boris and co address the situation in a timely manner.
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From what l hear in this last half hour another screeching big U turn is becoming increasingly likely as Tory MP's pile the pressure on a increasingly embattled Education Secretary.
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17-08-2020, 14:01
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Re: A-level and GCSE results fiasco.
Who gets to make the choice? If teachers are biased towards their pupils and the "board" looks to correct that bias is that wrong?
If the government sought to interfere with the "board" in other situations would we hear complaints that they are seeking to bolster support and ignore the "experts" that are put in place?
The situation is unique (one hopes) but my understanding is that the "board" tried to normalise the teacher supplied grades taking into account past performance of the school, this should have then left a few outliers - students performing better than the school's performance would indicate and they should be easier to be dealt with.
Trouble is whatever model is used would advantage some and disadvantage others. The model used does seem to have lowered grades unexpectedly and for some by a large margin. Do we run a new model? Would that solve the problem? Girls tend to do better when marked over the teaching year and boys better in exams.
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The other thought is that if the uni's know how the model has adjusted grades they could adjust the offers.
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17-08-2020, 14:07
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Re: A-level and GCSE results fiasco.
Interesting point here showing how the algorithms favoured the smaller and mostly private schools:
Up to 5 students doing an A-level: You get the teacher's predictions.
5-15 students: Teacher's predictions carry some weight
15 + students: Teacher's predictions carry no weight
https://twitter.com/hugorifkind/stat...724032/photo/1
And here where outstanding candidadtes at poorly-performing schools could not be identified
https://twitter.com/JohnRentoul/stat...583360/photo/1
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17-08-2020, 15:37
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Re: A-level and GCSE results fiasco.
Screw em, send em picking veg & flowers instead. University education means bugger all . . . just look at the politicians that have one, and then use the word 'clever' while looking . . go on, I dare ya 
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17-08-2020, 16:07
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Re: A-level and GCSE results fiasco.
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Screw em, send em picking veg & flowers instead. University education means bugger all . . . just look at the politicians that have one, and then use the word 'clever' while looking . . go on, I dare ya |
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17-08-2020, 16:08
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Re: A-level and GCSE results fiasco.
This is what Gavin Williamson said on Saturday in the Times (Behind Paywall)
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/g...sult-gwrhx8ztx
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17-08-2020, 17:11
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Re: A-level and GCSE results fiasco.
Bit pointless, as most of the Uni places have been allocated (unless the Government relax the number limits, and allow over-recruitment for those who would have got a place with the Teacher Assessed results).
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Screw em, send em picking veg & flowers instead. University education means bugger all . . . just look at the politicians that have one, and then use the word 'clever' while looking . . go on, I dare ya |
Well, bit difficult having doctors or engineers without a degree, but whatever floats your boat...
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17-08-2020, 17:41
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Re: A-level and GCSE results fiasco.
Good news - the Government has relented.
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Exams U-turn: Teacher grades to be used in England, Wales and Northern Ireland as algorithm scrapped
A-level and GCSE students in England, Wales and Northern Ireland will be handed exam grades as predicted by their teachers instead of a controversial algorithm.
The move marks a stark U-turn by both Prime Minister Boris Johnson and Education Secretary Gavin Williamson, and comes after growing fury from pupils and Tory MPs about the handling of the results crisis....
Scotland was the first nation to scrap the moderated grades and let students have what they were predicted by teachers.
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https://news.sky.com/story/exams-u-t...rades-12051173
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17-08-2020, 18:08
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Re: A-level and GCSE results fiasco.
very sorry for children involved with this, but last year my granddaughter did her a levels predicted grades were 3a*s got 2a,s and a b not sure teachers are that good at calling this. got a place anyway . As she only needed 1a and 2b,s
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Re: A-level and GCSE results fiasco.
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Bit pointless, as most of the Uni places have been allocated (unless the Government relax the number limits, and allow over-recruitment for those who would have got a place with the Teacher Assessed results).
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The University admissions cap is to be lifted the government has just confirmed.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...isis-live-news
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17-08-2020, 18:49
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Re: A-level and GCSE results fiasco.
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Yup, because the offers are legal contracts, so the Unis have to fulfill their agreements (including the previous offers) - be crowded at Uni for the next 3 to 4 years...
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17-08-2020, 19:19
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Re: A-level and GCSE results fiasco.
I wonder how many students with inflated grades will drop out after finding the uni courses too demanding? 
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17-08-2020, 19:37
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Re: A-level and GCSE results fiasco.
The Gov were on a hiding to nothing either way.
It was always just best to just let this year go, let the teachers give out the candy bars and focus on getting everything sorted for the next academic year.
None of what happened was anybody's fault. The kids didn't ask not to take exams and the Gov had no choice but to suspend exams.
Any method to "equalise" results would have resulted in shouts of unfairness, so they should have steered well clear of it.
Political naivety really.
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Re: A-level and GCSE results fiasco.
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The Gov were on a hiding to nothing either way.
It was always just best to just let this year go, let the teachers give out the candy bars and focus on getting everything sorted for the next academic year.
None of what happened was anybody's fault. The kids didn't ask not to take exams and the Gov had no choice but to suspend exams.
Any method to "equalise" results would have resulted in shouts of unfairness, so they should have steered well clear of it.
Political naivety really.
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U turning is getting a habit for Boris and incompetent rabble. His only ministerial criteria was ' are you up for Brexit ? We'll work out which is your arse and elbow later..' (after Bozza works it out)
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-a9568956.html
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