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Old 24-10-2016, 19:54   #1
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UK to contribute £36m to Calais 'Jungle' clearance

http://news.sky.com/story/uk-to-cont...rance-10631211

I am now starting to get really annoyed about all this.

The problem is on FRANCE side, so why should our TAX money again be spent on the problem. Which has NOTHING to do with us.

We have already said that we will take homeless kids. And now we hear the UK Governments will take more migrants from France.

Has the UK Government seen what these trouble makers do. And yet, we will take more.

The UK, is now become the soft touch for everyone who wants freebees.

Don't get me wrong, We are a small Island, and if we take anymore. We will sink
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Re: Why should we pay

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http://news.sky.com/story/uk-to-cont...rance-10631211

I am now starting to get really annoyed about all this.

The problem is on FRANCE side, so why should our TAX money again be spent on the problem. Which has NOTHING to do with us.

We have already said that we will take homeless kids. And now we hear the UK Governments will take more migrants from France.

Has the UK Government seen what these trouble makers do. And yet, we will take more.

The UK, is now become the soft touch for everyone who wants freebees.

Don't get me wrong, We are a small Island, and if we take anymore. We will sink
A very simple question Arthur, did you bother to read the article? No, of course you didn't
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Re: Why should we pay

its not France's problem its the EU'S PROBLEM and we are still part of the EU .
i'm no sure what is so bad about France that they need to come here they have marched through Europe to get to the UK [WHY] ?.
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its not France's problem its the EU'S PROBLEM and we are still part of the EU .
i'm no sure what is so bad about France that they need to come here they have marched through Europe to get to the UK [WHY] ?.

Taken from https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...atch.jonhenley


What, then, is the attraction? First, unlike in France or Germany, refugees who reach Britain instantly acquire the effective status of asylum seeker. While they wait for their cases to be examined, a lengthy process that gives them every chance to disappear, they are housed and fed and given £35 a week, including £25 in vouchers to be exchanged in the shops.

Then, after six months in the country, they can apply for a work permit. But they can easily find work without a permit, because the black economy in Britain is worth some £80bn a year - four times the size of France's. There is no penalty for an employer who hires an illegal immigrant. Ultimately, only one in 40 illegal immigrants to Britain is repatriated.
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What, then, is the attraction? First, unlike in France or Germany, refugees who reach Britain instantly acquire the effective status of asylum seeker. While they wait for their cases to be examined, a lengthy process that gives them every chance to disappear, they are housed and fed and given £35 a week, including £25 in vouchers to be exchanged in the shops.

Then, after six months in the country, they can apply for a work permit. But they can easily find work without a permit, because the black economy in Britain is worth some £80bn a year - four times the size of France's. There is no penalty for an employer who hires an illegal immigrant. Ultimately, only one in 40 illegal immigrants to Britain is repatriated.
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You can be sent to jail for 5 years and pay an unlimited fine if you’re found guilty of employing someone who you knew or had ‘reasonable cause to believe’ didn’t have the right to work in the UK.
https://www.gov.uk/penalties-for-emp...llegal-workers
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good spot !! author needs a slap !!
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The Guardian article you quoted is from 2001 - things can change a lot in 15 years!
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But they'll just claim that they didn't know or have reasonable cause. Far too wishy-washy IMHO.

Should be much simpler: If you employ an illegal immigrant etc etc.

This would put an onus on any employer to be damn sure that the person they are employing has a right to be here.
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What, then, is the attraction? First, unlike in France or Germany, refugees who reach Britain instantly acquire the effective status of asylum seeker. While they wait for their cases to be examined, a lengthy process that gives them every chance to disappear, they are housed and fed and given £35 a week, including £25 in vouchers to be exchanged in the shops.


Then, after six months in the country, they can apply for a work permit. But they can easily find work without a permit, because the black economy in Britain is worth some £80bn a year - four times the size of France's. There is no penalty for an employer who hires an illegal immigrant. Ultimately, only one in 40 illegal immigrants to Britain is repatriated.
And therein lies the problem. I have no problem with genuine refugees as long as we give them the same benefits as our neighbours therefore not making us the target for "economic" refugees. Our appeals process needs streamlining too as do our repatriation powers, just look how long and how much it cost to get rid of "The Hook"!
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