Miliband - Labour didn't listen blah blah

[Osem]

Ed Miliband has admitted the last Labour government did not do enough for ordinary people, becoming distant on issues such as immigration.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-20996278

Not only did the refuse to listen, they demonised those who spoke out against their policies and they're still doing it.

Odd how they only seem to keen to listen when they're not in power eh?

[Russ]

Next the Vatican will announce that the Pope believes in God.

Originally Posted by Osem

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-20996278

Not only did the refuse to listen, they demonised those who spoke out against their policies and they're still doing it.

Odd how they only seem to keen to listen when they're not in power eh?

So basically he has nothing to say ,no new ideas ,no new strategies ,just a bunch of baloney about some new rules for private landlords

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by martyh

So basically he has nothing to say ,no new ideas ,no new strategies ,just a bunch of baloney about some new rules for private landlords

He is doing something that Labour leaders are very very good at

Spoiler: 

Talking out of his arse

[Osem]

Originally Posted by martyh

So basically he has nothing to say ,no new ideas ,no new strategies ,just a bunch of baloney about some new rules for private landlords

Sadly there are those gullible enough to believe the BS even though we heard similar promises and apologies from Bliar and Brown at each election they contested. Same old BS, same old Labour.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politi...ge/4519863.stm

He told supporters at a celebration in the National Portrait Gallery in London: "We have got to listen to the people and respond wisely and sensibly."

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by Osem

Sadly there are those gullible enough to believe the BS even though we heard similar promises and apologies from liar and Bigot at each election they contested. Same old BS, same old Labour.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politi...ge/4519863.stm

Here let me fix you post

[peanut]

Sirius & Osem, are you a double act?

I can never tell you 2 apart.

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by peanut

Sirius & Osem, are you a double act?

I can never tell you 2 apart.

No we both just see Labour for the Muppet's they are

[Osem]

Originally Posted by peanut

Sirius & Osem, are you a double act?

I can never tell you 2 apart.

It's easy if you take the rose tinted specs off.

[Osem]

Clearly Miliband's still feeling apologetic for 13 years of his party ignoring what he now seems to think were legitimate concerns about mass immigration, especially the numbers of low skilled migrants. So folks, don't worry, it'll all be different if/when Miliband's in charge...

For those with a strong stomach or rose tinted specs and a penchant for Labour BS you can view the broadcast here:

http://labourlist.org/2013/03/labour...-work-for-all/

http://labourlist.org/2013/03/is-lab...ete-solutions/

Despite the apparent lack of credible stats on the issue, I reckon he's got wind of a major problem emanating from Romania and Bulgaria and needs to be seen to be concerned about it. Whether this 'concern' would translate into effective action after a Labour victory is quite another thing however. Labour have a track record for talking tough on such issues before elections and reverting to type after.

[Will21st]

Originally Posted by Osem

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-20996278

Not only did the refuse to listen, they demonised those who spoke out against their policies and they're still doing it.

Odd how they only seem to keen to listen when they're not in power eh?

Seeing that Labour are socialists and therefore controlling and Anti-Libertarian by nature they will control the population with their policies just the same as they've always done.
They know what's best for you,me and everybody else... no dissent allowed.

Originally Posted by Will21st

Seeing that Labour are socialists and therefore controlling and Anti-Libertarian by nature they will control the population with their policies just the same as they've always done.
They know what's best for you,me and everybody else... no dissent allowed.

I don't think it works like that. You don't have to be authoritarian to be a socialist. It's just people have different degrees and areas in which they think the state should be involved in. I.E I would say the state should provide a social safety net, medical care and so on but should support freedom of expression and stay out of people's private lives.

[Ramrod]

Originally Posted by Damien

I don't think it works like that. You don't have to be authoritarian to be a socialist.

True, but most socialists become more and more authoritarian once they get into power.

Originally Posted by Ramrod

True, but most socialists become more and more authoritarian once they get into power.

I think most politicians have that trend. This Government promised a Freedom bill and reducing the erosion of civil liberties. Now they're still pushing for a database of all your internet and phone activity, were considering blocking sites deem to be pornographic, are passing a bill to allow more use of secret courts, and are talking about leaving the European Convention on Human Rights.

[Will21st]

Originally Posted by Damien

I don't think it works like that. You don't have to be authoritarian to be a socialist. It's just people have different degrees and areas in which they think the state should be involved in. I.E I would say the state should provide a social safety net, medical care and so on but should support freedom of expression and stay out of people's private lives.

Well,actually we agree then because socialists are controlling,but to differing degrees,but controlling non-the-less.
Saying that the state should provide a safety net and Healthcare to me means giving away control,e.g. if you are dependent on the state they control your life to an extent.Labour likes to control people via their welfare programs and general philosophy that government knows best,when in fact people know themselves what's best for them.

Socialism in all it's forms and or degrees of implementation leads to dictatorship and the loss of freedom. History has shown this time and again. Same for fascism....
in fact the only difference between Nazis and Commies is the colour,and one could argue Commies are actually worse than Nazis...

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Originally Posted by Ramrod

True, but most socialists become more and more authoritarian once they get into power.

Yup,they love to control!