Simon Hathaway Jailed For Killing His Five-Week-Old Baby Son

[thenry]

A man who killed his five-week-old baby son by shaking him violently in a rage and throwing him on to a sofa has been jailed for six-and-a-half years.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-berkshire-21719822

RIP little one.

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by thenry

RIP little one.

Six and a half years is not long enough. Lets hope he hets a visit from an inmate in jail.

[MalteseFalcon]

No chance. He'll be put on the same wing as the paedophiles so no-one can get at him.

now this is in no way an excuse but this is another case where someone has hit their mental breaking point and totally lost it. There will be very few people understand this kind of mental episode and even less will actually accept this is what happened. Anyone at any time can have a mental break it does not matter how strong you are all it takes is the right trigger.

Every parent has felt the frustration with their kids if they say different they are either lying or had a nanny. I know with my daughter there were occasions when she would not stop crying and it drove me up the wall. I obviously managed to keep it under control as I never harmed her and only pulled my hair out or punched the wall never taking out on her but I am sure every parent has felt similar at some point

Now I do not know whether this guy had shown any signs before like a uncontrollable temper ( which I consider a mental illness btw as the person loses control over their mental state) or a violent man ( again this could easily be a mental illness) but something happened this day to trigger an uncontrollable state of mind. It can happen to anyone

As I said this is not an excuse but I am going to highlight every single possible case where mental illness is not understood for those on this forum who think the mentally ill should pull themselves together

RIP little one

[Osem]

RIP little one.

[gba93]

Originally Posted by Osem

RIP little one.

Such a short life - so sad RIP

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by tizmeinnit

now this is in no way an excuse but this is another case where someone has hit their mental breaking point and totally lost it. There will be very few people understand this kind of mental episode and even less will actually accept this is what happened. Anyone at any time can have a mental break it does not matter how strong you are all it takes is the right trigger.

Every parent has felt the frustration with their kids if they say different they are either lying or had a nanny. I know with my daughter there were occasions when she would not stop crying and it drove me up the wall. I obviously managed to keep it under control as I never harmed her and only pulled my hair out or punched the wall never taking out on her but I am sure every parent has felt similar at some point

Now I do not know whether this guy had shown any signs before like a uncontrollable temper ( which I consider a mental illness btw as the person loses control over their mental state) or a violent man ( again this could easily be a mental illness) but something happened this day to trigger an uncontrollable state of mind. It can happen to anyone

As I said this is not an excuse but I am going to highlight every single possible case where mental illness is not understood for those on this forum who think the mentally ill should pull themselves together

RIP little one

I don't care if he does or does not have a mental illness. Anyone, regardless of their mental capacity, that can kill a helpless, defenceless, innocent, new born baby needs to be locked up and the key thrown away.

It's the most abhorrent crime I can think of. It makes me sick to my stomach and upsets me.

It's too horrible to think about.

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by Pierre

I don't care if he does or does not have a mental illness. Anyone, regardless of their mental capacity, that can kill a helpless, defenceless, innocent, new born baby needs to be locked up and the key thrown away.

It's the most abhorrent crime I can think of. It makes me sick to my stomach and upsets me.

It's too horrible to think about.

Thats why i hope one of the other inmates deals with him.

[LondonRoad]

Originally Posted by tizmeinnit

now this is in no way an excuse but this is another case where someone has hit their mental breaking point and totally lost it. There will be very few people understand this kind of mental episode and even less will actually accept this is what happened. Anyone at any time can have a mental break it does not matter how strong you are all it takes is the right trigger.

Every parent has felt the frustration with their kids if they say different they are either lying or had a nanny. I know with my daughter there were occasions when she would not stop crying and it drove me up the wall. I obviously managed to keep it under control as I never harmed her and only pulled my hair out or punched the wall never taking out on her but I am sure every parent has felt similar at some point

Now I do not know whether this guy had shown any signs before like a uncontrollable temper ( which I consider a mental illness btw as the person loses control over their mental state) or a violent man ( again this could easily be a mental illness) but something happened this day to trigger an uncontrollable state of mind. It can happen to anyone

As I said this is not an excuse but I am going to highlight every single possible case where mental illness is not understood for those on this forum who think the mentally ill should pull themselves together

RIP little one

It's true we don't know enough about what happens in our brains, nor do we know enough about the spectrums of mental health.

There is such a thing as evil though and I think anybody who is capable of doing that to a new born deserves anything that's coming to them.

RIP wee one.

Originally Posted by LondonRoad

It's true we don't know enough about what happens in our brains, nor do we know enough about the spectrums of mental health.

There is such a thing as evil though and I think anybody who is capable of doing that to a new born deserves anything that's coming to them.

RIP wee one.

I agree and here is the crux though. Was he evil before he hit his breaking point or did the breaking point bring the evil ? it can happen to anyone at any time

---------- Post added at 12:32 ---------- Previous post was at 12:30 ----------

. Around 3 out of every 100 young people will experience a psychotic episode. Most make a full recovery from the experience. Psychosis can happen to anyone.

http://psychiatry.yale.edu/step/psychosis/index.aspx

---------- Post added at 12:34 ---------- Previous post was at 12:32 ----------

About 3 out of every 100 people will experience a psychotic episode, making psychosis more common than diabetes. Most people make a full recovery from the experience.

http://www.rethink.org/about_mental_...psychosis.html

there are people on this forum with no idea about mental illness and they are prejudiced and stigmatise those with illnesses.

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by tizmeinnit

I agree and here is the crux though. Was he evil before he hit his breaking point or did the breaking point bring the evil ? it can happen to anyone at any time

It wouldn't happen to me.

It's irrelevant.

Mental impairment or not, he's a danger to society and therefore should be kept away from society.

Originally Posted by Pierre

It wouldn't happen to me.

It's irrelevant.

Mental impairment or not, he's a danger to society and therefore should be kept away from society.

you can not possibly know that. But I hope you are right

and I agree totally