report calls for an experimental 20% tax on all sugary soft drinks

[mertle]

for at least a year.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/20...ks-tax-obesity

sorry to me this madcap idea. One its easily avoided there is sodastream. People will just purchase them its like sodastream lobbying for the tax to kickstart its business.

Another is why do the powers create this evil sugar illusion. Mark my word it is illusion you have to question is it really that bad for you. Well anything in excess is but there also things these people not looked into or dismissed. If you search you would question this move.

Those substitutes are more chance cause obesity, yep. Ever wondered why health issues on the increase while we play the artificial is good for health claims. Why we should do more stodies into thes.

You will be shocked to learn they are the real devil why USA and UK becoming obese nations.

Suger personally not the evil its made out to be yes in excess its the devil incarnated. Exactly what aint out there eat too much beef, charrots, banana's. You name it in excess its deadly. On the fight obesity it clearly not its fault. The real enemy to it is our dear old artificial sweetners. Scientist have shown it to be.

http://www.time.com/time/health/arti...711763,00.html

Now we come to dear old sacharrin this had cloud over many years links to cancer. That because after lab test it gave lab rats bladder cancer. If you link to third there may been reason to done this as nutrasweat was coming on the market. So was it discredit rival who knows.

http://www.time.com/time/health/arti...931116,00.html

found this interesting how the war of the sweetners evolved

http://www.janethull.com/askdrhull/article.php?id=022

What I want to know is what are we supposed to drink?

Alcohol is frowned on.Coffee and tea are regarded as bad,too much fruit juice is bad for one's teeth.

Which leaves water.Yep very interesting..

[danielf]

I can't remember what movie it was, but there was this movie where someone said that if the doctors had their way, instead of eating food we would ingest old rope and yank that through. It's increasingly starting to look that way.

[Taf]

Get doctors or other "experts" to blame ill health on something, then in steps HMG to slap a tax on it.

[denphone]

My answer to them is very simple.

Teach children how to cook in schools, slowly create a culture where cooking and longer meals are encouraged as opposed to ready meals and snacks. The French have soft drinks, desserts and cheeses which are really high in saturated fat, and McDonald's that'll serve a beer with your burger. The French do not have a problem with obesity.

I don't know all the reasons for this and I don't think anyone has got an exact answer but a lot of it must be to do with their healthier culture around food. They take more time over it, longer lunches, they'll sit down at a proper table for a proper meal more often than we'll do. They snack less inbetween meals because they are more filling and the taste of good food makes the appeal of snacks less appealing.

Teaching how to cook, reducing the desire of quick processed snacks, and spending more time over food would all help a lot.

Unless we do that then we are just going to have to find more rudimentary ways of curbing obesity and one of those ways is to use the tax system. Besides, we can put that money towards the NHS which will increasingly need it if obesity continues to increase.

[mertle]

Originally Posted by Maggy J

What I want to know is what are we supposed to drink?

Alcohol is frowned on.Coffee and tea are regarded as bad,too much fruit juice is bad for one's teeth.

Which leaves water.Yep very interesting..

agreed maggy they are nutters. Remember 18 pints well if that was water still killer. Guess they better tax ban everything just incase its absued in excess.

Like I said every single thing you put in your mouth is bad if you abuse it.

---------- Post added at 17:32 ---------- Previous post was at 17:21 ----------

Originally Posted by Damien

Teach children how to cook in schools, slowly create a culture where cooking and longer meals are encouraged as opposed to ready meals and snacks. The French have soft drinks, desserts and cheeses which are really high in saturated fat, and McDonald's that'll serve a beer with your burger. The French do not have a problem with obesity.

I don't know all the reasons for this and I don't think anyone has got an exact answer but a lot of it must be to do with their healthier culture around food. They take more time over it, longer lunches, they'll sit down at a proper table for a proper meal more often than we'll do. They snack less inbetween meals because they are more filling and the taste of good food makes the appeal of snacks less appealing.

Teaching how to cook, reducing the desire of quick processed snacks, and spending more time over food would all help a lot.

Unless we do that then we are just going to have to find more rudimentary ways of curbing obesity and one of those ways is to use the tax system. Besides, we can put that money towards the NHS which will increasingly need it if obesity continues to increase.

I think alot to do with there culture how laid back they are plus plenty Red wine off course.

They still do have obesity like italy not as evident bit exists. Even with perfect environment you still can get those eat to excess.

Another link to obesity rarely looked is rushed lunches. Lack time a person gets to eat food. Some companies who give little time for lunch breaks.

Will france have problem down the road. Will drastically shortened lunch breaks impact on diet. They seen it reduced from one and half hours to half hour.

Said that sandwiches on the rise in france. Two billion sandwiches a year are sold in France. The nation long known for three-course bistro lunches washed down with a glass of red wine is apparently turning to sandwiches, fast food and soft drinks.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-radio-and-tv-17561232

If people are too stupid to understand having too much of something is bad forr them and causes them to be obese how are they expected to grasp a tax on their stupidity of choice they will just moan and then carry on as normal. We have to start imparting intelligent thought into people instead of drafting things for the idiot level. I enjoy a nice glass or two of coke as much as anyone but i don't go stupid with it so why exactly should i have to pay for other people's stupidity.

If they have to do anything charge these people when they seek medical attention because of their stupidity will have a much more beneficial affect then a general tax that hits everyone. Oh for the days of personal responsibility when people who did stupid things were the only one's that suffered for it.

[mertle]

agreed rizzyking but we should not tar all obesity to bad eating sometimes medical reasons. I am underweight can eat anything have bouts loss weight. Happened since born they just tell me to binge ocassionally on stuff should not eat.

I am suprised didnt say it was down to people owning horses

[Taf]

Originally Posted by mertle

...plus plenty Red wine off course.

Drinking red wine has drastically declined in France over the past decade, as quality wines got too rich for the ordinary man's pocket.

Originally Posted by Damien

The French have soft drinks...

Which they have just had a "health tax" slapped onto if they contain sugar.

Originally Posted by mertle

Two billion sandwiches a year are sold in France.

Baguette sandwiches tend not to be filled with foul mayonnaise as in the UK.

Originally Posted by mertle

The nation long known for three-course bistro lunches washed down with a glass of red wine is apparently turning to sandwiches, fast food and soft drinks.

I've seen that. Many bosses are demanding more time in work, less at lunch. Plus many places have stopped paying for their employees lunches (usually with Luncheon Vouchers).

Problem is that if they did decide to tax fizzy drinks then the tax would just get swallowed (no pun intended)into general taxation and not used for what it was meant for

[papa smurf]

i propose and extra 20% tax on doctors salaries ,we can call it the how do you like it when its you tax

[Stephen]

Am fed up with getting told they are going to tax this and that and putting minimum pricing on alcohol all because a minority are abusing them.

Punishing everyone for a small percentage of the population.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/21498287

Kelly is not convinced though. She said: "I eat junk food every day.
"I've been skinny my whole life and I eat like a horse."

Exactly..Not everyone should be 'punished'.

I'm overweight.I mostly do not drink fizzy pop these daysIf I do it's the low calorie non sugar type.It's not these drinks that cause me an issue with my weight.It's me overeating stuff like fat sugar and carbs.

If they want to do something to help our health full disclosure on labelling would be a good start some of them it's so difficult to work out whats what. This actually wouldn't affect me I only drink coke zero or diet lemonade but just so sick of the whole "tax and legislation can sort everything out" attitude that seems rampant.