05-03-2012, 10:37
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Easy access to BTFON
Just in case any of you were thinking of moving to BT just so you can access all those hotspots they go on about, well here's a cheap way of accessing them without joining BT.
For a one-off cost of £45 you can buy a 'Fonera Simpl WiFi router' which securely transmits public access WiFi, turning your place into a FON hotspot. This gives you access to FON hotspots worldwide and BTFON here. All you have to do is plug it into your existing router, follow the instructions and off you go!
http://corp.fon.com/en
I have been doing this since 2005, but because I live in a residential street hardly anybody logs onto my hotspot. This doesn't matter because all you have to do is transmit.
FON also do another router which allows you to schedule uploads and downloads from a USB disk drive for when your PC isn't on.
BTW. Sorry about the prefix to this thread but you can't post without a prefix it seems.
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05-03-2012, 10:49
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Re: Easy access to BTFON
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Originally Posted by roughbeast
Just in case any of you were thinking of moving to BT just so you can access all those hotspots they go on about, well here's a cheap way of accessing them without joining BT.
For a one-off cost of £45 you can buy a 'Fonera Simpl WiFi router' which securely transmits public access WiFi, turning your place into a FON hotspot. This gives you access to FON hotspots worldwide and BTFON here. All you have to do is plug it into your existing router, follow the instructions and off you go!
http://corp.fon.com/en
I have been doing this since 2005, but because I live in a residential street hardly anybody logs onto my hotspot. This doesn't matter because all you have to do is transmit.
FON also do another router which allows you to schedule uploads and downloads from a USB disk drive for when your PC isn't on.
BTW. Sorry about the prefix to this thread but you can't post without a prefix it seems.
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good idea but if the copyright holder ge tthere way if someone does and then download sometihng illegal since it your ip it yoru faulkt
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Quote:
Originally Posted by roughbeast
Just in case any of you were thinking of moving to BT just so you can access all those hotspots they go on about, well here's a cheap way of accessing them without joining BT.
For a one-off cost of £45 you can buy a 'Fonera Simpl WiFi router' which securely transmits public access WiFi, turning your place into a FON hotspot. This gives you access to FON hotspots worldwide and BTFON here. All you have to do is plug it into your existing router, follow the instructions and off you go!
http://corp.fon.com/en
I have been doing this since 2005, but because I live in a residential street hardly anybody logs onto my hotspot. This doesn't matter because all you have to do is transmit.
FON also do another router which allows you to schedule uploads and downloads from a USB disk drive for when your PC isn't on.
BTW. Sorry about the prefix to this thread but you can't post without a prefix it seems.
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you can make it withouta prefix jsut select eh blank one
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05-03-2012, 10:53
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Re: Easy access to BTFON
Nothing to do with Virgin Media (hence you couldn;t find the correct prefix) moved to "Other ISPs" forum
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05-03-2012, 10:59
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Re: Easy access to BTFON
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Originally Posted by Andrewcrawford23
good idea but if the copyright holder ge tthere way if someone does and then download sometihng illegal since it your ip it yoru faulkt
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you can make it withouta prefix jsut select eh blank one
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For folk to log on to your hotspot they have to provide credentials, i.e. a user name and password. This is traceable.
If what you are saying is right all BTFON members would be at risk. Don't you think BT will have thought of this?
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05-03-2012, 11:18
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Re: Easy access to BTFON
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Originally Posted by Andrewcrawford23
good idea but if the copyright holder ge tthere way if someone does and then download sometihng illegal since it your ip it yoru faulkt
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Nope ... an IP is not a unique identifier of the activities of an identifiable individual on the network. It hasn't been for years, ever since the advent of affordable routers and multiple connected devices in each home.
The one service Andrew Crossley did to the online community through his letter-writing scam was to have it established in court (admittedly while trying to claim the opposite) that you can't pin copyright infringement on someone with just an IP address.
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05-03-2012, 11:21
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Re: Easy access to BTFON
FON guest networks are logged anyway so the router owner is never liable..
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05-03-2012, 11:50
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Re: Easy access to BTFON
FON is great. We 'borrowed' my mother-in-law's login so we could keep our iPad running on holiday last summer and take bookings for our business. We were in a rented seaside flat and someone somewhere nearby had BT internet so we had browsing available in our living room most of the time. Sometimes the hotspots go unavailable; I don't know whether that's because the bandwidth is all being used by the subscriber or whether they perhaps have their homehub set to to sleep when not in use. But on the occasions that happened, there were another couple of places along the seafront where you could sit on a bench and enjoy the sea air and sunshine while catching up with emails.
We switched to BT when we got home, partly because our legacy VM National product got terminated. There's no LLU on oue exchange, so none of the competitors are particularly cost-effective. BT with access to FON was a good deal for us.
In response to the suggestion in the OP, I would point out that being a BT customer gives you access to both FON and Openzone hotspots, I'm not sure whether you would get Openzone access as a non-BT customer with an account direct with FON. You tend to find Openzone in public spaces like m-way services.
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05-03-2012, 11:52
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Re: Easy access to BTFON
All BT openzone hotspots is open to FON users.. Also you can get openzone access without being a BT or FON customer with a subscription
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05-03-2012, 12:04
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Re: Easy access to BTFON
Indeed. I'm not sure if it's on FON or some other provider but the common way of doing this is to tunnel the guest traffic via a different IP so it's not even associated with your connection to begin with.
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05-03-2012, 23:40
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Re: Easy access to BTFON
Hi
Ive been using Fonera for 2 years i brought my own fonera modem connected to virgin BB
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06-03-2012, 06:56
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Re: Easy access to BTFON
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Originally Posted by tridens
Hi
Ive been using Fonera for 2 years i brought my own fonera modem connected to virgin BB
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I think you will find it is a router, not a modem.
How have you been getting on with it, any problems connecting to FON worldwide or BTFON? Which router do you have, the Simpl or the Fonera2n?
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06-03-2012, 09:41
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Re: Easy access to BTFON
I've run a Fonera+ myself for a couple of years or so. As a Fonero you get free worldwide access to FON hotspots but only a small credit for use on OpenZone and once that's used you have to pay. BT broadband customers get both free I think.
There is no risk at all of having your collar felt for copyright infringement or kiddy fiddler site access as the access it provides is via a tunnel through BT and anyone surfing through it you will have a BT IP address allocated to their login id.
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10-03-2012, 17:48
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Re: Easy access to BTFON
Hmm, this could be handy. There are a few FON hotspots around our office and £45 one off is far better than paying for access monthly.
Could always get this then slap a 1% QoS onto that port so nobody local can gobble my bandwidth
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