09-10-2016, 22:45
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Should EU migrants be made to leave the UK?
There's been a lot of discussion about what we should do with regards to EU migrants on the political programmes today.
It does look like we will not be able to get what we want from the EU without accepting free movement, which I'm happy to say our Government will not accept, so questions are now being asked as to what we do with any migrants over here.
Some will say send them all back, some will be more liberal and say that they should all be allowed to stay.
My view is that each person should be considered on their merits and questions should be asked about what they have brought to the UK.
Do they work?
Are they claiming any benefits (even if working)?
Have they broken the law, if so to what extent?
Do they work in a skill shortage area?
Have they started a successful business, particularly relevant if they employ others?
What recourse to public funds have they had? Eg what are they likely to take out when compared to what they put in eg do they use a lot of NHS resources or are they likely to in the near future?
Have they carried out any laudable activities that are beneficial to wider society as a whole eg voluntary work or have they put others first by helping someone who was drowning or trapped in a fire etc.
What questions/criteria (if any) would you like to see?
Last edited by RichardCoulter; 09-10-2016 at 22:50.
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10-10-2016, 07:28
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Re: Should EU migrants be made to leave the UK?
Any EU migrants here before we leave the EU and change the rules are here legally.
and therefore should and must be allowed to stay.
Change the rules going forward of course, but we can't retrospectively start weeding people out and deporting them.
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10-10-2016, 07:53
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Re: Should EU migrants be made to leave the UK?
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Any EU migrants here before we leave the EU and change the rules are here legally.
and therefore should and must be allowed to stay.
Change the rules going forward of course, but we can't retrospectively start weeding people out and deporting them.
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10-10-2016, 08:41
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Re: Should EU migrants be made to leave the UK?
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10-10-2016, 10:36
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Re: Should EU migrants be made to leave the UK?
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10-10-2016, 11:36
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Re: Should EU migrants be made to leave the UK?
An accord needs to be reached. How will the EU treat British people working/living in their Countries? For now, that puts me in the 'Depends' camp.
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10-10-2016, 14:49
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Re: Should EU migrants be made to leave the UK?
That's a good point.
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10-10-2016, 21:09
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Re: Should EU migrants be made to leave the UK?
If they are here working or studying with a legitimate placement then no we should not make them leave, after the whole process of exiting the EU is over their future will likely be dependent on agreed terms. I hope there is no expulsion of citizens from the EU that were here legitimately as that would be an over reaction though i do support training british citizens up to fill the skills gap we have in some sectors that necessitated outside professionals coming here. Whatever the political outcome between the UK and the EU i hope we continue our close relationship with some of our european neighbours which pre-dated the EU.
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10-10-2016, 21:15
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Re: Should EU migrants be made to leave the UK?
No, they are perfectly entitled to be here.
If you started making them leave, then those countries would also be allowed to send all the British folk living in the EU home. Which would just create a big mess.
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10-10-2016, 21:57
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Re: Should EU migrants be made to leave the UK?
I have two points on this.
1) IF, they have jobs and pay into the economy of this Country. AND not claiming benefit. I have no problem.
2) A couple of months ago, we heard that a Migrant came into the country, and started claiming benefit. And demanded a large house for his family. This is totally wrong. We have families already here that would jump at the chance of this happening
3 and finally. We must have thousands of people, young and old looking for work. But migrants will take ANY job to get money. Therefore, employers will reduce the wage structure to take them on.
It hard enough to survive in this country.
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10-10-2016, 22:21
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Re: Should EU migrants be made to leave the UK?
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No, they are perfectly entitled to be here.
If you started making them leave, then those countries would also be allowed to send all the British folk living in the EU home. Which would just create a big mess.
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10-10-2016, 23:10
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Re: Should EU migrants be made to leave the UK?
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No, they are perfectly entitled to be here.
If you started making them leave, then those countries would also be allowed to send all the British folk living in the EU home. Which would just create a big mess.
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And would your point of view change if EU Countries 'take the initiative' and start sending British folk home when Article 50 is invoked?
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11-10-2016, 06:34
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Re: Should EU migrants be made to leave the UK?
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And would your point of view change if EU Countries 'take the initiative' and start sending British folk home when Article 50 is invoked?
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They won't
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11-10-2016, 06:54
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Re: Should EU migrants be made to leave the UK?
It's a two way street ,EU migrants will lose the right to live and work here just as British migrants will lose the right to live and work in France,Germany,Belgium etc .Eu migrants will also lose the right to housing and welfare payments so a portion would most likely decide themselves to leave with very little pushing because there will be very little benefit to remaining
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11-10-2016, 08:39
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Re: Should EU migrants be made to leave the UK?
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It's a two way street ,EU migrants will lose the right to live and work here just as British migrants will lose the right to live and work in France,Germany,Belgium etc .Eu migrants will also lose the right to housing and welfare payments so a portion would most likely decide themselves to leave with very little pushing because there will be very little benefit to remaining
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And those (which i suspect are the majority) that aren't on benefits and are making a positive contribution to society?
I can see so many of the feckless twonks who refuse to go to work as it is suddenly leaping out of bed at 3am to go and pick sprouts in North Lincolnshire
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